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Old 07-02-2009, 09:29 AM
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The Hypocrisy of Obama

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"It's not productive, given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations, to be seen as meddling -- the U.S. President meddling in Iranian elections." Obama said at a White House Press conference with South Korean President Lee.
That was about the recent Iranian revolt ...

Fast forward to this weeks coup in Honduras ...

From Reuters:

"Zelaya, in office since 2006, was overthrown in a dawn coup on Sunday after he angered the judiciary, Congress and the army by seeking constitutional changes that would allow presidents to seek re-election beyond a four-year term.

The Honduran Congress named an interim president, Roberto Micheletti, and the country's Supreme Court said it had ordered the army to remove Zelaya."

So we have the Congress and Supreme Court of Honduras supporting the removal of Zelaya ... according to Honduras' law.

Yet, what's BHO's statement?

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"We believe that the coup was not legal and that President Zelaya remains the president of Honduras, the democratically elected president there," Obama told reporters after an Oval Office meeting with Colombian President Alvaro Uribe.
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Obama said he would work with the Organization of American States and other international institutions to restore Zelaya to power and "see if we can resolve this in a peaceful way."
So it's wrong to meddle in Iran where its citizens are fighting for democracy ... but it's OKAY to meddle in Honduras and work to restore a leftist back to power against the rule of law in Honduras ...?

JD, MikeinAR ... care to try to explain why BHO would meddle with a sovereign nations lawful removal of a leader, when he was largely unwilling to show any support with Iran?
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:23 AM
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Re: The Hypocrisy of Obama

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So it's wrong to meddle in Iran where its citizens are fighting for democracy ... but it's OKAY to meddle in Honduras and work to restore a leftist back to power against the rule of law in Honduras ...?

JD, MikeinAR ... care to try to explain why BHO would meddle with a sovereign nations lawful removal of a leader, when he was largely unwilling to show any support with Iran?
Raises hand excitedly! I know! I know! Because BHO is a dictator at heart and sympathetic to them. He said it sets a bad precedent if one can be thrown out of office [for trying to circumvent the Constititution].

Btw- Are you all aware that there is already a proposal in Congress to end term limits for the President?
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:30 AM
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Btw- Are you all aware that there is already a proposal in Congress to end term limits for the President?
Whoa whoa whoa!!!!! Are you serious? Or is this just something you heard/read about on the evil FoxNews?
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:42 AM
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The interim government says it took a legal course in ousting Zelaya -- the Supreme Court said it instructed the army to remove him and Congress voted in the acting president until elections to be held in November.

Opponents of Zelaya believe he was pushing the limits of democracy with his drive to extend the single four-year term of presidents to allow re-election. He faces arrest on a raft of criminal charges if he returns to Honduras.

"We have established a democratic government and we will not cede to pressure from anyone. We are a sovereign country," said Roberto Micheletti, who was named as caretaker president by Honduran lawmakers shortly after Zelaya's ouster.
This is being grossly mislabled by the BHO administration and others as a military coup ... when it really is democracy and the rule of law in action.

More headlines ...
"US Suspends military exercises with Honduras..."
"US Base closes after coup..."
"US may cut aide to Honduras..." (if Zelaya not returned to power)

If this isn't meddling then what is!?!

Where's the stinkin media on this? Why aren't they calling BHO out on his hypocrisy and asking why he's meddling in Honduran affairs ... and why his administration is demanding the Honduran Congress and Supreme Court bow to the US pressure to return a leader that was LEGALLY stripped of power!?

This is why so many of us believe BHO to be nothing more than a closet dictator and leftist with the likes of Chavez.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:48 AM
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Raises hand excitedly! I know! I know! Because BHO is a dictator at heart and sympathetic to them. He said it sets a bad precedent if one can be thrown out of office [for trying to circumvent the Constititution].

Btw- Are you all aware that there is already a proposal in Congress to end term limits for the President?
In the interest of full disclosure, I better point out here that Steny Hoyer has proposed this same legislation every Congressional session since the mid 80's.
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Old 07-02-2009, 11:53 AM
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In the interest of full disclosure, I better point out here that Steny Hoyer has proposed and introduced this same legislation every Congressional session since the mid 80's.
This isn't Steny Hoyer ... and I'd have trouble believing Congressman Hoyer would propose that legislation while W was president, but a record of it would help...

HJ Res 5: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
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This isn't Steny Hoyer ... and I'd have trouble believing Congressman Hoyer would propose that legislation while W was president, but a record of it would help...

HJ Res 5: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
I'm not sure why you would have trouble believing it. I guess because some are trying to paint all the alarming things happening as an Obama thing...and not as politicians of both parties selling us up the river. For the record, he introduced the legislation not only during W's Presidency, but during Sr's Presidency, and even Reagan's.
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:22 PM
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I'm not sure why you would have trouble believing it. I guess because some are trying to paint all the alarming things happening as an Obama thing...and not as politicians of both parties selling us up the river. For the record, he introduced the legislation not only during W's Presidency, but during Sr's Presidency, and even Reagan's.
Here's the deal...

Hoyer's a Democrat ... which is why I have a hard time believing he would want that to pass while W was President.

I have read that this type of legislation has been submitted with each administration.

The problem here is ... with the type of Democrats in control of Congress (Pelosi, Reid, other libs, etc) ... it could very well pass this time.

[*sarcasm*] And yes, JD, I'm being racist because it's BHO in WH and I don't want him in office past this term. [/*sarcasm*]

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Old 07-02-2009, 12:29 PM
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Note: in another thread, JD suggested that most who disagree with BHO, do so because they're racist.
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Here's the deal...

Hoyer's a Democrat ... which is why I have a hard time believing he would want that to pass while W was President.

I have read that this type of legislation has been submitted with each administration.

The problem here is ... with the type of Democrats in control of Congress (Pelosi, Reid, other libs, etc) ... it could very well pass this time.

[*sarcasm*] And yes, JD, I'm being racist because it's BHO in WH and I don't want him in office past this term. [/*sarcasm*]

Well, he did personally propose this during all the aforementioned Presidencies. Whether it's hard to believe or not, it is factual. It's just funny how the parisan approaches in our country cause people to slant things. Some are now saying "There are already proposals to end term limits now that Obama is President"...that is simply not accurate and just seems to be partisan alarmism to me.

I just hope that the American people learn to see through all this type of thing before it's too late...but I'm not terribly optimistic.
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