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01-23-2009, 10:22 AM
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Obama to reverse abortion policy
It has started! Liberalism at it's best.
For those of you who voted for Obama, I hope you will be as enthused about praying for all of the innocent babies that will be murdered using my tax dollar as you did defending this man who is now sadly our president.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/...a_abortion_ban
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama plans to sign an executive order ending the ban on federal funds for international groups that promote or perform abortions, officials told The Associated Press on Friday.
The move, long expected in the Democratic president's first week in office, will be welcomed by liberals and criticized by abortion rights foes.
The policy bans U.S. taxpayer money, usually in the form of U.S. Agency for International Development funds, from going to international family planning groups that either offer abortions or provide information, counseling or referrals about abortion. It is also known as the "global gag rule," because it prohibits taxpayer funding for groups that even talk about abortion if there is an unplanned pregnancy.
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01-23-2009, 10:32 AM
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Re: Obama to reverse abortion policy
Right VB. Those who argue that more children will not be killed under Obama need to say that to the UN global population control group who is rejoicing in the millions of $ in new funds.
Killing babies is their GOAL - to make the earth a better place of course.
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01-23-2009, 11:47 AM
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Obama Lifting Funding Ban For Abortion
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01-23-2009, 12:00 PM
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Re: Obama Lifting Funding Ban For Abortion
How are the ones who voted for him going to explain away they voted for a baby killer?
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01-23-2009, 12:01 PM
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Re: Obama to reverse abortion policy
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Originally Posted by vrblackwell
It has started! Liberalism at it's best.
For those of you who voted for Obama, I hope you will be as enthused about praying for all of the innocent babies that will be murdered using my tax dollar as you did defending this man who is now sadly our president.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/...a_abortion_ban
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama plans to sign an executive order ending the ban on federal funds for international groups that promote or perform abortions, officials told The Associated Press on Friday.
The move, long expected in the Democratic president's first week in office, will be welcomed by liberals and criticized by abortion rights foes.
The policy bans U.S. taxpayer money, usually in the form of U.S. Agency for International Development funds, from going to international family planning groups that either offer abortions or provide information, counseling or referrals about abortion. It is also known as the "global gag rule," because it prohibits taxpayer funding for groups that even talk about abortion if there is an unplanned pregnancy.
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The way I see it… this is conservatism at its worst.
First, there’s some misinformation in your insinuation. These groups don’t just perform abortions. Many of these groups provide a number of essential medical services internationally in very poor regions of the world. Sadly, abortions or abortion referrals are one of the services they offer. We all are deeply saddened at that and no doubt we all deplore unnecessary abortions. However, we cannot loose sight of the fact that there is also much good that is done in the process.
Second, while you certainly say that you deplore abortion, you’re using the tragedy as political fodder. Obama isn’t forcing women to have abortions. Individual women choose to have abortions regardless as to if it’s legal or not. Obama is merely putting the choice and moral responsibility into the hands of individual women. That’s where we come in. We have to teach the value of life. What’s interesting is that neither Clinton nor Obama have forced a single woman to have an abortion. Yet it seems like people blame them for the issue. This is where the REAL motivation is revealed. It’s all for political gain, it has nothing to do with morality or the value of life. If it did the church would vehemently condemn WOMEN who procure abortions not target politicians.
The way I see it, this issue is very complex and beyond the scope of government’s ability to properly address it. The issue of abortion should be addressed through churches, civic groups, adoption providers, and other private organizations. The government has historically proven to be entirely incapable of properly addressing abortion. Since government shifts and fluctuates, the issue will too. The only sure fire resolution will be private groups addressing the issue with time and resources 24/7 from now until the Lord returns.
Also consider this, Belgium has the lowest abortion rate on earth per ever 1000 pregnancies… and abortion’s perfectly legal in Belgium. We can address this without wrangling in the courts and shifting policies every administration.
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01-23-2009, 12:07 PM
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Re: Obama to reverse abortion policy
As a president if you fund or suppport abortion then your just as bad as the women who had them or the doc who ripped the baby out the womb.
No explaining this away for you that voted for Obama.
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The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
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01-23-2009, 01:04 PM
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Re: Obama to reverse abortion policy
We haven't mentioned anything about the countless number of lives lost in the war at the hands of the government. Those people were alive and died because of war. Anyone care to shed any light on that?
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01-23-2009, 01:33 PM
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Re: Obama to reverse abortion policy
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
As a president if you fund or suppport abortion then your just as bad as the women who had them or the doc who ripped the baby out the womb.
No explaining this away for you that voted for Obama.
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Amen to that!!!
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01-23-2009, 01:35 PM
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Re: Obama to reverse abortion policy
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Originally Posted by vrblackwell
It has started! Liberalism at it's best.
For those of you who voted for Obama, I hope you will be as enthused about praying for all of the innocent babies that will be murdered using my tax dollar as you did defending this man who is now sadly our president.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/...a_abortion_ban
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama plans to sign an executive order ending the ban on federal funds for international groups that promote or perform abortions, officials told The Associated Press on Friday.
The move, long expected in the Democratic president's first week in office, will be welcomed by liberals and criticized by abortion rights foes.
The policy bans U.S. taxpayer money, usually in the form of U.S. Agency for International Development funds, from going to international family planning groups that either offer abortions or provide information, counseling or referrals about abortion. It is also known as the "global gag rule," because it prohibits taxpayer funding for groups that even talk about abortion if there is an unplanned pregnancy.
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Besides the obvious....where are those federal funds gonna come from? We are super duper in DEBT and in a financial crisis
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01-23-2009, 01:48 PM
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Re: Obama Lifting Funding Ban For Abortion
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How are the ones who voted for him going to explain away they voted for a baby killer?
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A big AMEN to that!!!
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