No Communion for Obama Supporters

[Jermyn Davidson]

COLUMBIA, S.C. – A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."

The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.

"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.

"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."

During the 2008 presidential campaign, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly than four years earlier, telling Catholic politicians and voters that the issue should be the most important consideration in setting policy and deciding which candidate to back. A few church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal soul by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.


the rest of the story below:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081113/...gBtEhPQOXLLJ94



So does voting for a Pro-Choice candidate eternally curses your soul?

If your Pastor took this same stand, how would your church react?
How would you react?

[HappyTown]

So does voting for a Pro-Choice candidate eternally curses your soul?

Nope!

If your Pastor took this same stand, how would your church react?
How would you react?

Thankfully our pastor didn't say one thing on the issues, nor hint on who to vote for!

[Cindy]

That's not right in my opinion. Every citizen has the right to vote for whomever they choose. Communion is between God and the person receiving it, not anyone else.

Our pastor just asked us to pray for our nation and we did. I would not agree if my church took that stand.

[jaxfam6]

I do not necessarily agree with this idea completely but I have to say he is standing by his convictions. Gotta respect that at least.



(btw, I did not read the whole article)

[Hoovie]

Thumbs up for Jay Scott Newman!

[Sarah]

Originally Posted by 1399

COLUMBIA, S.C. – A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."

The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.

"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.

"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."

During the 2008 presidential campaign, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly than four years earlier, telling Catholic politicians and voters that the issue should be the most important consideration in setting policy and deciding which candidate to back. A few church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal soul by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.


the rest of the story below:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081113/...gBtEhPQOXLLJ94



So does voting for a Pro-Choice candidate eternally curses your soul?

If your Pastor took this same stand, how would your church react?
How would you react?

If I'm not mistaken, over fifty percent of white Catholics voted for BO! Now that was very, very surprising, considering their stance on abortion.

They had their eyes closed too, like so many others did on Nov 4th.

[OP_Carl]

We as apostolics may not understand the inner workings of Catholicism, but it certainly looks to me like somebody has chosen to take a stand. I can get behind that!

The U.S. Catholic church has been hemmoraging membership for quite some time. This reduction has occurred during the pervasive liberalization of thought within the Catholic Church, such that greater than 50% of them vote for liberals (leftists). The Episcopalians and Presbyterians have travelled the same route. They mistakenly believe government can accomplish God's virtuous aims here on earth.

Pockets of resistance, of people wanting to return to a life of conviction, are springing up.

I work with a Catholic who refuses to attend mass in the vernacular. If it's not in Latin, it's not authentic, in his view! He is hardcore an all things Catholic. He's younger than me, and yet he's expecting his 7th child. A list of his kids names reads like the table of contents of the New Testament.

People are starting to look for something authentic.

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by 1399

COLUMBIA, S.C. – A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."

The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.

"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.

"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."

During the 2008 presidential campaign, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly than four years earlier, telling Catholic politicians and voters that the issue should be the most important consideration in setting policy and deciding which candidate to back. A few church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal soul by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.


the rest of the story below:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081113/...gBtEhPQOXLLJ94



So does voting for a Pro-Choice candidate eternally curses your soul?

If your Pastor took this same stand, how would your church react?
How would you react?

why is the priest standing up for what he beleives so strange? And insisting his members repent for openly going against the church teachings?

This is no stranger than a minister sitting down someone off the platform who violates the church beliefs and refuses to make them right.

I say good for him for standing up for what he believes

[MissBrattified]

I would expect such action from the Catholic church. They are VERY involved in the personal workings of their parishioners' lives. They won't even marry people if they don't fit the RCC bill.

I don't blame the RCC for continuing to be who they are. At least they're (fairly) consistent.

I'm thankful I'm a Protestant, though.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

We as apostolics may not understand the inner workings of Catholicism, but it certainly looks to me like somebody has chosen to take a stand. I can get behind that!

The U.S. Catholic church has been hemmoraging membership for quite some time. This reduction has occurred during the pervasive liberalization of thought within the Catholic Church, such that greater than 50% of them vote for liberals (leftists). The Episcopalians and Presbyterians have travelled the same route. They mistakenly believe government can accomplish God's virtuous aims here on earth.

Pockets of resistance, of people wanting to return to a life of conviction, are springing up.

I work with a Catholic who refuses to attend mass in the vernacular. If it's not in Latin, it's not authentic, in his view! He is hardcore an all things Catholic. He's younger than me, and yet he's expecting his 7th child. A list of his kids names reads like the table of contents of the New Testament.

People are starting to look for something authentic.

I applaud taking a stand, as long as what you are standing for is worthy.


His stand would be akin to a Pentecostal Pastor saying, "Well don't come to the altar for prayer and if you do, I won't pray with you as long as you support Obama."

How is the "Church" an appropriate place for that stand?