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Old 06-12-2008, 04:14 PM
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Outlawing Gay "Discrimination"

It is now illegal in Colorado to speak or publish anything that can be construed as discrimanatory against homosexuals outside the four walls of the church. "God Bless America" http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66829
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Old 06-12-2008, 04:26 PM
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Re: Outlawing Gay "Discrimination"

Good, homosexuals are target too much by the church.
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Re: Outlawing Gay "Discrimination"

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Good, homosexuals are target too much by the church.
Really? Out side the walls of a church they are? Where? most churches today don't even target them INSIDE the church.

It's amazing to me to see...what I assume is a Christian, saying GOOD to secular anti-Christian laws....just amazing.

Christians are their own worse enemies when it comes to this kind of thinking
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Old 06-12-2008, 08:30 PM
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Re: Outlawing Gay "Discrimination"

Being gay is still a sin. If a man lies down with a man as with a woman, it is still an abomination unto the Lord. They can serve me coffee if they want, but I still have a biblical duty to reach out and proclaim the Gospel to them, so that they would come out from their sins, period.

Now, we preach under threat of arrest. The USA is turning into the USSR. Lord help us for not speaking up.
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Being gay is still a sin. If a man lies down with a man as with a woman, it is still an abomination unto the Lord. They can serve me coffee if they want, but I still have a biblical duty to reach out and proclaim the Gospel to them, so that they would come out from their sins, period.

Now, we preach under threat of arrest. The USA is turning into the USSR. Lord help us for not speaking up.
well... sort of. It was actually the turn towards Democracy that gave more freedom to homosexuals in Russia. It's strange, but "freedom" has it's complications, and often extinguishes it'self. Yet another reminder that the Theocracy of Christ is where true freedom is found.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:37 PM
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Really? Out side the walls of a church they are? Where? most churches today don't even target them INSIDE the church.

It's amazing to me to see...what I assume is a Christian, saying GOOD to secular anti-Christian laws....just amazing.

Christians are their own worse enemies when it comes to this kind of thinking
Really,

This law is anti-christian huh?

When someone struggles with lying, smoking, or any other sin we carry them and try our hardest to lift them up. When someone is homosexual we deal with it in much more harsh manner.

The popular tactics of helping these lost people have been far from necessary and obviously have been getting the church nowhere in this area. I have felt that the manner preachers have approached this topic with has been largely a driving force in the secular view of christians.

This is not anti-christian it's definitely a good law that will help dilute the negative view of the church.
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Really,

This law is anti-christian huh?
IF was is stated in the initial post is true of this law, then yes it is anti-Christian. Any law that seeks to limit telling the truth of the word of God so that some might be saved is anti-Christian.

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When someone struggles with lying, smoking, or any other sin we carry them and try our hardest to lift them up. When someone is homosexual we deal with it in much more harsh manner.
How does saying that prove this law is not anti-Christian? This is a red herring. Second, speak for yourself. When someone struggles with homosexuality I help them just as I would any liar or someone doing any other sin. But still HOW does that pertain to the subject of telling the truth outside of the church building? You seem to be chasing rabbit trails here

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The popular tactics of helping these lost people have been far from necessary and obviously have been getting the church nowhere in this area. I have felt that the manner preachers have approached this topic with has been largely a driving force in the secular view of christians.
Again, this has nothing to do with the current topic.

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This is not anti-christian it's definitely a good law that will help dilute the negative view of the church.
It is anti-christian. It does NOT force the church to alter it's view. It might prevent them from telling the truth that like lying, adultery or other sins homosexuality is a sin and then need to repent.
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well... sort of. It was actually the turn towards Democracy that gave more freedom to homosexuals in Russia. It's strange, but "freedom" has it's complications, and often extinguishes it'self. Yet another reminder that the Theocracy of Christ is where true freedom is found.
WOW... did you recently read this somewhere Stephen?
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Re: Outlawing Gay "Discrimination"

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IF was is stated in the initial post is true of this law, then yes it is anti-Christian. Any law that seeks to limit telling the truth of the word of God so that some might be saved is anti-Christian.


How does saying that prove this law is not anti-Christian? This is a red herring. Second, speak for yourself. When someone struggles with homosexuality I help them just as I would any liar or someone doing any other sin. But still HOW does that pertain to the subject of telling the truth outside of the church building? You seem to be chasing rabbit trails here


Again, this has nothing to do with the current topic.


It is anti-christian. It does NOT force the church to alter it's view. It might prevent them from telling the truth that like lying, adultery or other sins homosexuality is a sin and then need to repent.

Unfortunately you assume too much. Did you read the article? The post was ambiguous the article shed more light on the topic.

There has never been a tactful way of speaking out against homosexuality outside of the church. I am assuming those that think this law is ridiculous are those that try impose their convictions upon others.

No, homosexuality is not good, it is a sin, but there are many discriminatory acts that christians do outside of the church that are utterly inexcusable. We are not talking about preaching, we are talking about discrimination vs. preaching what is sin and what is not.

Don't judge my views and say that I am being misleading when you are obviously oblivious to what is actually occurring.

You can agree with anti-gay protests all you want but I will only disagree with the gender identity aspect of this law.
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WOW... did you recently read this somewhere Stephen?
Uh, no. Why?
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