The Upcoming Republican Defeat

Rico · #1 05-20-2008, 12:26 AM

I knew that would get your attention.

I have been thinking about this upcoming election and what it could mean for America. I've read a lot of posts on this site from people who are worried about Barak Obama winning. It's almost as if you guys think God is pulling for the Republicans to win or something. Something dawned on me a little bit ago, while I was responding to a post from TRFrance. God is neither Republican nor Democrat. Both those designations are man made. God is holy and both parties fall equally short on doing anything to "represent" God in this country. Having a Republican or Democrat in the White House isn't gonna make a bit of difference in God's plans for mankind. Either party isn't going to hasten or delay the coming of the Lord.

With that in mind, I don't see why we get so caught up in politics. Good Lord! It's even affected how we refer to each others as brothers. This one is a conservative, that one is a liberal, that one is a moderate, yada, yada. Don't get me wrong. I believe in voting. I have just realized that we make our choices for selfish reasons. "I support candidate x because I agree with him/her on such and thus, etc. etc." It all boils down to getting our way. You can't convince me it's God leading you to vote this way or that way, because Brother So and So, who supports the other side, believes God is leading him as well, and we all know God isn't going to pull against Himself. It just seems to me like this whole stinkin mess is an exercise in vanity. God knows the end from the beginning and things are going to happen how they were meant to happen, in the time they were meant to happen because God planned for them to happen this way. We aren't in control of nuthin. It's all in His hands.

I don't know why I decided to post this. Just rambling, I guess. I honestly think Barak Obama is going to win this election. I may be wrong. Won't be the first time either. I just don't think it's going to mean as much as we like to believe it will. God is our Source. Not the republicans, not the democrats, not our jobs, not the welfare system, not the UN, not any of these things. We could lose everything we have; houses, cars, jobs, the very clothes on our backs. It still wouldn't change the fact that God is our Source. I've got several scriptures screamin at me inside my head right now.

Not gonna post them, though. I'm just gonna sit here and thank God for being my Source. Carry on.

Antipas · #2 05-20-2008, 06:58 AM

Political things are worldly and carnal. Throughout history many Christians chose not to get absorbed into the political machines of their day, they could discern that they would become pawns of the political powers of this world.

I say, vote at your own risk.

DividedThigh · #3 05-20-2008, 09:04 AM

fact is we have an obligation to vote and at least try to get our voice heard, who knows what will happen, me and mine will live for the lord anyway, but i think the most important thing that will happen is the judges , since they seem to be shaping our laws more than our lawmakers, dt

Truthseeker · #4 05-20-2008, 09:09 AM

I'm for neither, but I don't think Obama will win, at least I hope not.

Michael The Disciple · #5 05-20-2008, 09:21 AM

If abortion and gay were not issues I probably would not vote. Unless Mcain comes out in public against them I still wont.

DividedThigh · #6 05-20-2008, 10:03 AM

if mccain has a chance at all he will have to shift hard right to get the base motivated , just dont know if he has it in him, we will see, dt

CC1 · #7 05-20-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Antipas

Political things are worldly and carnal. Throughout history many Christians chose not to get absorbed into the political machines of their day, they could discern that they would become pawns of the political powers of this world.

I say, vote at your own risk.

And I say as Christians we have a responsibility to work for as moral a government and laws as possible and that means voting for the canidates and political parties that most support Christian values.

It is naive to think it doesnt matter. Just a few days ago USA Today had an article about the lasting effects of the many conservative judges Ronald Reagan appointed to the Federal courts. If not for these judges somewhat holding back the flood of judicial activism there is no telling how much worse the country would be today.

Burying ones head in the sand and wahing ones hands of politics may seem pious but it is in fact a dereliction of ones responsibilty to God and family.

There are real differences between canidates and parties and those real differences have great impact on moral issues like partial birth abortion, etc.

DividedThigh · #8 05-20-2008, 10:10 AM

well said cc1, i agree we do have a responibility to do our duty, dt

Light · #9 05-20-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

If abortion and gay were not issues I probably would not vote. Unless Mcain comes out in public against them I still wont.

Here we go again. If the republicans in 12 years of control didn't send a bill to completely stop abortion what makes you think they will stop it even if they control for another 8 years.
Abortion and gay issues are the republicans only selling point for those ignorant enough to believe they want to overturn ROW verse Wade. They know what will push your buttons.
They have tried to scare the people with terrorism but that is failing so it's back to the tried and faithful, ABORTION.

TRFrance · #10 05-20-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

If abortion and gay were not issues I probably would not vote. Unless Mcain comes out in public against them I still wont.

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Originally Posted by Light

Here we go again. If the republicans in 12 years of control didn't send a bill to completely stop abortion what makes you think they will stop it even if they control for another 8 years. Abortion and gay issues are the republicans only selling point for those ignorant enough to believe they want to overturn ROW verse Wade. They know what will push your buttons.
They have tried to scare the people with terrorism but that is failing so it's back to the tried and faithful, ABORTION.

Speaking as a conservative independent myself, I have to admit there’s probably a lot of truth in that.

The Repubs have given up on the abortion issue, and the gay marriage issue.

Like it or not, the writing is on the wall, and has been for a while now...

Realistically, abortion has become an irremovable part of American society now, as gay marriage will probably also be fairly soon. (Amnesty for illegal aliens is the next issue they’re in the process of giving up on too)

The Rethuglicans, however, know how to use the issue as red meat to get the base riled up every election cycle.