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01-20-2008, 06:14 PM
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Preachers Needing Help!
This is only my observation regarding the way that some in ministry deliver their messages. I have a great respect for Pulpit Ministry but I have little respect for preachers who “belittle” those sitting in the pew. Since when is it ok for ministry to make the members of the church feel that they are “stupid”?
I have heard preachers make the following statements:
“Well I guess I have to say that again since you obviously didn’t understand me.”
“Well, that statement went over your head”
“You need to just, get over it!”
“If you were doing right, then you wouldn’t be where you are or having the trouble that you are having.”
Since when did it become the job of the “preacher” to bring conviction instead of allowing God to bring conviction?
Since when is it ok for the “preacher” to demand a response from the congregation instead of allowing the congregation to respond on their own?
Since when is it ok for the ministry to make fun of the way someone worships, such as, “Is that all you can do, give a little golf clap?”
Again, let me say that I do have great respect for ministry but please, loose the ego, get some training in public speaking, understand that making fun of the people in the pew will only cause you to look bad, remember that a sermon is like a letter, you need a beginning, a middle, and an ending. Last but not least, don’t preach for response. It leaves everyone feeling let down!
I'm so thankful that I have a Pastor who allows God to be God and to do what he needs to do!
Last edited by KarenJo; 01-20-2008 at 06:18 PM.
Reason: missed word
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01-20-2008, 06:37 PM
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KJ,
You are obviously bitter and rebellious.
J/K
You forgot to add that INSTEAD of preaching for "response" preachers should be preaching for "results". Pentecostal tradition has given such weight to emotional repsonses that a lot of preachers judge their success by response rather than results.
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01-20-2008, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
KJ,
You are obviously bitter and rebellious.
J/K
You forgot to add that INSTEAD of preaching for "response" preachers should be preaching for "results". Pentecostal tradition has given such weight to emotional repsonses that a lot of preachers judge their success by response rather than results.
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What if the results the preacher wants, is a good response????? 
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01-20-2008, 07:32 PM
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T-h-e-y aren't gonna like this thread.........
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01-20-2008, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
What if the results the preacher wants, is a good response????? |
Good point!  LOL
BTW...Why aren't you in church???
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01-20-2008, 07:36 PM
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How about preachers that say the word "........" ten times at a huge conference?
Everybody just grins and laughs it off.
If it were our kids, we would beat their little tushies for using such crude language, especially in church.
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01-20-2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
How about preachers that say the word "........" ten times at a huge conference?
Everybody just grins and laughs it off.
If it were our kids, we would beat their little tushies for using such crude language, especially in church.
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Their Heavenly Father will beat their little tushies. 
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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01-20-2008, 07:53 PM
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Their Heavenly Father will beat their little tushies. |
Do you really think so?
I wonder if He is as concerned about it as we are?
I just don't like the arrogance of it.
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01-20-2008, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
KJ,
You are obviously bitter and rebellious.
J/K
You forgot to add that INSTEAD of preaching for "response" preachers should be preaching for "results". Pentecostal tradition has given such weight to emotional repsonses that a lot of preachers judge their success by response rather than results.
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First of all I am neither bitter nor rebellious. But someone making an honest observation. Again this is my observation and because I have an opinion, it doesn't make me bitter or rebellious. Also, I’m neither deaf, dumb, nor blind, I've just seen a lot in my 30 years of serving God.
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01-20-2008, 08:15 PM
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T-h-e-y aren't gonna like this thread.........
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I don't like this thread, and I'm not a preacher.....
Just more bashing.
And the only reason I can see that people start these kinds of threads are to get others to help them bash. I am sure there are bad preachers out there but I kind of like to hear about the good ones more. And this is just MY opinion.
There is suppose to be among Apostolics personal accountability, that's for preachers and congregants. So preacher bashers should be held accountabile on or off a forum. Talk about bad spirits.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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