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notofworks · #**981** 12-31-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

What's the "standard" for tipping?

$5.00 minimum or 20 percent rounded up to the next dollar whichever is greater!!!

I'm a hopelessly generous tipper even if the service isn't great. The bottom line is, I'm not gonna miss the extra 5 or 10 bucks when my life's earnings are counted up and it could make a HUGE difference in the life of a young college student, single mom, or struggling young dad.

Sam · #**982** 12-31-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

...True love loves. It does not overlook, it does not fail to preach/teach the gospel. But it is not conditional either. "Loving" the unsaved as a means to get them to church is not the fullness of agape.

I am glad Jesus never approached me that way.

Another problem with it... who knows the heart. Just because their lips denounce does not mean their heart is not seeking and exploring. Perhaps they are just noting your reaction to see if you pull back.

Not meaning as criticisms as much as Selah.

Sam · #**983** 12-31-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I'm a hopelessly generous tipper even if the service isn't great. The bottom line is, I'm not gonna miss the extra 5 or 10 bucks when my life's earnings are counted up and it could make a HUGE difference in the life of a young college student, single mom, or struggling young dad.

My wife worked as a waitress for a couple of years. The pay was way below the minimum wage. Her money was actually made from tips.

When our kids were in high school and working side jobs we always taught them that waiters and waitresses actually made their money by tips and they should tip regardless of the service which is often beyond the waiter's control. That was quite a few years ago when the standard tip was 15 percent. We told them if they couldn't afford the 15 percent tip they shouldn't eat at a place where they were served by waiters.

RandyWayne · #**984** 12-31-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

What's the "standard" for tipping?

$5.00 minimum or 20 percent rounded up to the next dollar whichever is greater!!!

You will read about proper tipping all over the place and it ranges from as little as 10% to 18%. I've always noticed that women tend to be worse then men in terms of 4 women eating lunch and one gets out a calculator and figures out the proper tip to the penny, then she used the same calculator to figure out EXACTLY how much each woman owes.
If four men eat out and the bill is 40 bucks, they all just throw a 20 in the pile and consider the leftover a tip.

And yes, most (not "all") apostolics tend to be the worst tippers, or at least like the lady with her calculator, and are also ridiculously demanding on top of it.

RandyWayne · #**985** 12-31-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I'm a hopelessly generous tipper even if the service isn't great. The bottom line is, I'm not gonna miss the extra 5 or 10 bucks when my life's earnings are counted up and it could make a HUGE difference in the life of a young college student, single mom, or struggling young dad.

I am pretty generous as well, however were me and my wife differ is when the service is horrible -not because the waiter or waitress is overworked or frazzled but because he or she is just a punk who doesn't give a rip, I want to leave the 1 or 2 penny insult tip, but she still throws a couple of bucks or more down.

When I haven't been with her in these situations, I've done the "drop the coins into the half glass of water and put the coaster over it before turning it over and putting it on the table". Sort of like what Cliff did to Carla once.

notofworks · #**986** 12-31-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I am pretty generous as well, however were me and my wife differ is when the service is horrible -not because the waiter or waitress is overworked or frazzled but because he or she is just a punk who doesn't give a rip, I want to leave the 1 or 2 penny insult tip, but she still throws a couple of bucks or more down.

I used to do that. But my wife taught me something. She has a way of turning the grumpiest waiter/waitress into a happy camper. I had never seen anyone do that until I met her. It's like she would make it her mission. I've even seen her end up crying and praying with an angry waitress before.

I once had a restaurant owner tell me off because the waitress made more money than he did after the tip I left. No, I didn't give him a tip!!

Hoovie · #**987** 12-31-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I'm a hopelessly generous tipper even if the service isn't great. The bottom line is, I'm not gonna miss the extra 5 or 10 bucks when my life's earnings are counted up and it could make a HUGE difference in the life of a young college student, single mom, or struggling young dad.

I too consider myself a generous tipper too... however I know some career waiters/waitresses make as much as $40,000 per year. It's not always an occupation of paupers.

RandyWayne · #**988** 12-31-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

I too consider myself a generous tipper too... however I know some career waiters/waitresses make as much as $40,000 per year. It's not always an occupation of paupers.

Oh, how I know that! There are some better restaurants that we go to a couple of times a year, which is all we can afford, were the waitress gets 20-30 bucks from us. Now times that by however many tables she gets an hour and you can imagine how it adds up. PLUS, they only have to claim 8% as income taxes.

Hoovie · #**989** 12-31-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

And yet the small differences are telling. Jason is a fine young man who has proven his mettle under fire, and remained gracious under the circumstances.

He is also lightyears ahead in understanding over most UPCI ministers as far as tolerance.

There remains one small thing of which I doubt even he is aware. In reading posts to you (not about you) there is still the slightest air of condescension. Like the woman he knows to be a lesbian but is nice to her anyway for the last two years.

The fact that his interaction is totally dependent on how far along they are in accepting the gospel.

True love loves. It does not overlook, it does not fail to preach/teach the gospel. But it is not conditional either. "Loving" the unsaved as a means to get them to church is not the fullness of agape.

I am glad Jesus never approached me that way.

Another problem with it... who knows the heart. Just because their lips denounce does not mean their heart is not seeking and exploring. Perhaps they are just noting your reaction to see if you pull back.

Not meaning as criticisms as much as Selah.

Sorry I can't swallow this. Your post contains more than a balanced review of Jason's outreach techniques. I see veiled judgement amid your compliments.

Please link to the posts you reference so we can see the context.

And where did he say he only loves as a means to get folks churched?

Hoovie · #**990** 12-31-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Oh, how I know that! There are some better restaurants that we go to a couple of times a year, which is all we can afford, were the waitress gets 20-30 bucks from us. Now times that by however many tables she gets an hour and you can imagine how it adds up. PLUS, they only have to claim 8% as income taxes.

Never heard anything like that...