Tithing…Is it a command? - Page 99

Rudy · #**981** 10-08-2014, 01:48 PM

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Rudy, the key to this is keep pounding our message down their throat, because their defense is extremely weak. We score a TD every time we get the ball and they are on full time defense. The word will get out by our perseverance and they will eventually be isolated by the world and the saints. It all about educating folks with the truth. We are in the will of God, as Martin Luther was when he spoke out on indulgences against the church of his day.

I guess I'm looking at fellowship with like minded saints. Many leave but have no place to go. We need an alternative.

Sean · #**982** 10-08-2014, 01:57 PM

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I guess I'm looking at fellowship with like minded saints. Many leave but have no place to go. We need an alternative.

Thats true, even the "rebels" had a planet to call home in their battles against the "empire"...LOL

Originalist · #**983** 10-08-2014, 03:03 PM

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Rudy, the key to this is keep pounding our message down their throat, because their defense is extremely weak. We score a TD every time we get the ball and they are on full time defense. The word will get out by our perseverance and they will eventually be isolated by the world and the saints. It all about educating folks with the truth. We are in the will of God, as Martin Luther was when he spoke out on indulgences against the church of his day.

AMEN!!

FlamingZword · #**984** 10-08-2014, 05:46 PM

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AMEN!!

ha ha ha you can keep amening all you want 99% of Apostolic preachers teach tithing, you got a long way to go. Good luck.

Sean · #**985** 10-08-2014, 05:49 PM

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ha ha ha you can keep amening all you want 99% of Apostolic preachers teach tithing, you got a long way to go. Good luck.

Little by little, line upon line, knowledge and doctrine will come. It is prophecied for the Last Days saints...

Originalist · #**986** 10-08-2014, 05:54 PM

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ha ha ha you can keep amening all you want 99% of Apostolic preachers teach tithing, you got a long way to go. Good luck.

At one time 99% of pentecostal preacher didn't baptize in the name of Jesus. Did that make them right?

Sean · #**987** 10-08-2014, 06:14 PM

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At one time 99% of pentecostal preacher didn't baptize in the name of Jesus. Did that make them right?

Some folks actually think a consensus of opinions forms the truth. They think that if you get enough of them together and believe in something, that they can sway the Lord to think their way.

It ALMOST makes them feel saved! The Catholic Church is over 1 billion strong. They will give a FEELING of truth when you get in the crowds of the Vatican on Sunday. Huge numbers create alot of energy, but its not the Holy Ghost energy. This "energy" comes from deceiving spirits!

Lafon · #**988** 10-08-2014, 07:09 PM

At the end of all the contentious debate during the council at Jerusalem (c. AD51) regarding the question of whether circumcision (an element of the Law) was necessary for salvation (as some of the Jewish converts had come down to the predominantly Gentile church at Antioch and taught), please note the words of James in rendering the final decision about the matter:

"FOR IT SEEMED GOOD TO THE HOLY GHOST, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

that ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and

from blood, and

from things strangled, and

from fornication:

from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well." (Acts 15:28-29, KJV)

Does any, besides myself, find it rather strange that from among all of the former ordinances of the Law which the Gentiles were being commanded to obey, "IT SEEMED GOOD TO THE HOLY GHOST," as well as everyone in attendance at that council, that "tithing," which was also an ordinance of the Law, was not included among the list of "don'ts"?

Seeing the Holy Ghost deemed ONLY these four elements of the former covenant to remain continuous, and be obeyed by the Gentile saints, then should one today be condemned for questioning the legitimacy of "tithing" (let's not forget, this letter outlining these 4 "do nots" were being sent to Gentiles, not to Jewish converts) as so many of our Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal preachers are broadcasting as if it were an integral part of the covenant of grace?

Sean · #**989** 10-08-2014, 07:29 PM

Lafon, these preachers are doing the same thing as the Judaizers that this passage addresses...putting an extra burden on the saints that is not in the list you described. Paul cursed these Judaizer false brethren, called them witches and wished the Lord would "cut them off" in the book of Galatians.(they were even baptized in Jesus name and Spirit filled)

Pliny · #**990** 10-08-2014, 08:01 PM

Poor deceived Jeremiah. He didn't understand Jesus came to destroy the Law...

(Jer 31:31 ESV) "Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
(Jer 31:32 ESV) not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD.
(Jer 31:33 ESV) For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.