Was it necessary to repeal DADT?

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

And yet the small differences are telling. Jason is a fine young man who has proven his mettle under fire, and remained gracious under the circumstances.

He is also lightyears ahead in understanding over most UPCI ministers as far as tolerance.

There remains one small thing of which I doubt even he is aware. In reading posts to you (not about you) there is still the slightest air of condescension. Like the woman he knows to be a lesbian but is nice to her anyway for the last two years.

The fact that his interaction is totally dependent on how far along they are in accepting the gospel.

True love loves. It does not overlook, it does not fail to preach/teach the gospel. But it is not conditional either. "Loving" the unsaved as a means to get them to church is not the fullness of agape.

I am glad Jesus never approached me that way.

Another problem with it... who knows the heart. Just because their lips denounce does not mean their heart is not seeking and exploring. Perhaps they are just noting your reaction to see if you pull back.

Not meaning as criticisms as much as Selah.

At least Jason admits he may not always handle things the right way. Unlike some who think they do.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

There are also means of practical application.

Hair dressers that visit women who are in hospice or long term hospital and do free makeover.

Men mechanically inclined offering occasional free oil changes to the elderly at the church property.

Businessmen mentoring inner city youth on how to start a business.

Religion pure and undefiled. Love and kindness without expectation of return.

Not using as opportunities to pass out tracts.

They will sense when it is TOTALLY altruistic and respond.

But even if they don't, do it simply because it is the right thing to do.

GASP!!!! You don't think they should hand out tracts??? If one doesn't do that, how does one share the gospel???

Speaking, there was once a UPC tract that was titled, "Here's a tip" and inside were instructions concerning how to avoid hell. The idea was to leave this on the restaurant table instead of a monetary tip. I wonder how many souls that one saved?

And who sat at a desk drawing that up and thought it was a good idea?

You mentioned oil changes....we launched a thing years ago to paint over graffiti and do oil changes and were shut down by our liability carrier.

But yes, you are writing the heart of the creative evangelist, who is not insistent on scoring a touchdown on every play, demanding repentance and immediate change, but is willing to work in the messy fields of those that are broken.

[Azzan]

Originally Posted by Cindy

At least Jason admits he may not always handle things the right way. Unlike some who think they do.

Yes he does.

MMM's post was more about food for thought than simple criticism.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Azzan

Yes he does.

MMM's post was more about food for thought than simple criticism.

Yes, it was. I was in no way trying to say differently. But this means of communicating makes it hard sometimes to show our intent.

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by notofworks

GASP!!!! You don't think they should hand out tracts??? If one doesn't do that, how does one share the gospel???

Speaking, there was once a UPC tract that was titled, "Here's a tip" and inside were instructions concerning how to avoid hell. The idea was to leave this on the restaurant table instead of a monetary tip. I wonder how many souls that one saved?

And who sat at a desk drawing that up and thought it was a good idea?

You mentioned oil changes....we launched a thing years ago to paint over graffiti and do oil changes and were shut down by our liability carrier.

But yes, you are writing the heart of the creative evangelist, who is not insistent on scoring a touchdown on every play, demanding repentance and immediate change, but is willing to work in the messy fields of those that are broken.

reminds me of a story:

A democrat was explaining to friends how he garnered votes, tip waitress, cabbies, and barbers (one who really interact with the public) at least $20 and tell them to vote democrat.

A republican was explaining the same to his friends only he said he always tipped them a nickel........ and told them to vote democrat

[Azzan]

Originally Posted by notofworks

GASP!!!! You don't think they should hand out tracts??? If one doesn't do that, how does one share the gospel???

Speaking, there was once a UPC tract that was titled, "Here's a tip" and inside were instructions concerning how to avoid hell. The idea was to leave this on the restaurant table instead of a monetary tip. I wonder how many souls that one saved?

And who sat at a desk drawing that up and thought it was a good idea?

You mentioned oil changes....we launched a thing years ago to paint over graffiti and do oil changes and were shut down by our liability carrier.

But yes, you are writing the heart of the creative evangelist, who is not insistent on scoring a touchdown on every play, demanding repentance and immediate change, but is willing to work in the messy fields of those that are broken.

Really? Wow. I have friends who work in the service industry and survive on their tips. This action, even though it's done through good intentions, would not be received well at all!

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Azzan

Really? Wow. I have friends who work in the service industry and survive on their tips. This action, even though it's done through good intentions, would not be received well at all!

Even less if they had shared tips.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Azzan

Really? Wow. I have friends who work in the service industry and survive on their tips. This action, even though it's done through good intentions, would not be received well at all!

A bigger tip with a track would be better!

[Azzan]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

A bigger tip with a track would be better!

Servers remember large tips.

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by Azzan

Servers remember large tips.

Originally Posted by Encryptus

reminds me of a story:

A democrat was explaining to friends how he garnered votes, tip waitress, cabbies, and barbers (one who really interact with the public) at least $20 and tell them to vote democrat.

A republican was explaining the same to his friends only he said he always tipped them a nickel........ and told them to vote democrat

And small ones. :-)