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Old 09-22-2008, 11:14 AM
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In Acts 18:26 and 2 Timothy 4:19, the apostle Paul gives Priscilla the honor of first mention. Note also his salutation in Romans 16:3. Greet Pricilla and Aquila, my helpers in Christ Jesus. When Pricilla and Aquila heard him, they took him and expounded to him the way of God more perfectly (Acts 18:26). It is highly significant that both Pricilla and Aquila are named as instructing and illuminating Apollos. There can be no question that here is a woman engaged in teaching ministry, and she is teaching a man. Not that it may be the rule but probably the exception of the rule but it did happen.


I just imagine we all are wasting our time for I know if I were to quit doing what I do I would be lost...my dear friends many times in my life I would (my flesh) have loved to quit but I have a divine call and am part of the eternal plan of God...
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:16 AM
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well, if a woman is to be in silence how can she prophecy?

I am not meaning a building I mean the church a body...lots of the body meets in homes, under trees, by river banks, in wooded areas...
Again, this is not about a woman being used in ministering; this is about a woman being used in the five-fold ministry.

As far as a woman addressing the Church, please look here:
1 Corinthians 14:27-37
(27) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
(28) But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
(29) Let the prophets [Masculine Noun G4396] speak two or three, and let the other judge.
(30) If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
(31) For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
(32) And the spirits of the prophets [Masculine Noun G4396] are subject to the prophets.
(33) For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
(34) Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
(35) And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
(36) What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
(37) If any man think himself to be a prophet [Masculine Noun G4396], or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Paul makes it clear that prophesying before the congregation is limited to men.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:24 AM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

Women don't need to defend being called, anointed and used of God.

Our gifts make way for themselves and God's calling places us smackdab in the center of His will. Sometimes that means that women are used in positions of leadership within the church including using their mouths to exhort and teach.

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Old 09-22-2008, 11:31 AM
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In Acts 18:26 and 2 Timothy 4:19, the apostle Paul gives Priscilla the honor of first mention. Note also his salutation in Romans 16:3. Greet Pricilla and Aquila, my helpers in Christ Jesus. When Pricilla and Aquila heard him, they took him and expounded to him the way of God more perfectly (Acts 18:26). It is highly significant that both Pricilla and Aquila are named as instructing and illuminating Apollos. There can be no question that here is a woman engaged in teaching ministry, and she is teaching a man. Not that it may be the rule but probably the exception of the rule but it did happen.


I just imagine we all are wasting our time for I know if I were to quit doing what I do I would be lost...my dear friends many times in my life I would (my flesh) have loved to quit but I have a divine call and am part of the eternal plan of God...
Sis Alvear, can you explain why Paul disagrees in his epistles with what you claim he said in Acts and Romans about Pricilla? In his epistles he made it clear that women were not to speak to the Church, and that the five-fold ministry is limited to only men, and yet you have Paul not even following his own writings concerning this one woman. Can you explain why he did not obey what God inspired him to write?

Of course at the end of this we know that Paul did exactly what he told everyone else to do. Paul even said he was "blameless." Because so, your interpretation of Pricilla's role must be in error. When we take what is written of Aquila and Pricilla we see that Paul was talking about a husband who had a loyal wife who accompanied him in ministry. She, therefore, played an important role in what her husband was called to do. Nowhere does Paul say that Pricilla was the one who taught Apollo. Yet that is what you'd have us believe.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:47 AM
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I think we can discuss these subjects as rational children of God,and reason together with the word and still love each other.
This doesn't happen brother. Rationale, reason, the word and love go right out the window on this topic in particular.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:50 AM
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Sis Alvear, can you explain why Paul disagrees in his epistles with what you claim he said in Acts and Romans about Pricilla? In his epistles he made it clear that women were not to speak to the Church, and that the five-fold ministry is limited to only men, and yet you have Paul not even following his own writings concerning this one woman. Can you explain why he did not obey what God inspired him to write?

Of course at the end of this we know that Paul did exactly what he told everyone else to do. Paul even said he was "blameless." Because so, your interpretation of Pricilla's role must be in error. When we take what is written of Aquila and Pricilla we see that Paul was talking about a husband who had a loyal wife who accompanied him in ministry. She, therefore, played an important role in what her husband was called to do. Nowhere does Paul say that Pricilla was the one who taught Apollo. Yet that is what you'd have us believe.

Please read the context of 1 Cor 14:34, 35. It is saying a woman cannot speak but this is in the context of LEARNING. "If they will learn anything, let them ask their husband at home, for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." The speaking is in direct correlation to LEARNING. This tells me that this is not talking about preaching but there is a context in which Paul was speaking that has nothing to do with preaching, but the women were spekaing in the church while they were learning and being disruptive, presumably. If it were talking about preaching, there would be no reason to talk about the women asking their husbands at home. What would they be asking them about?

In 1 Tim 2 it talks about a woman not being suffered to teach. This says she should not have authority over THE MAN, not THE MEN. The word man can also be translated as husband. It then goes on to talk about Adam and Eve, which is a husband, wife relationship. Nowhere does this verse refer to preaching in the church.

There are women prophetesses all over the scriptures, a woman judge, a woman deaconess and, if you count Junia, a woman apostle.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:10 PM
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Re: Do You Believe In Women Preachers?

I could write all day Brother Burk but no matter what I write you would not believe because you see the bible different than I do...You could write all day and I would not see it the way you do....for my part if you agree let´s just be friends..
I wrote a book on women preachers and could paste it all here but we would still disagree. I am not the type to go back and forth.
Some of my children think it is a heaven or hell issue but they never heard that from my mouth...
I think God is merciful and He and He alones the situation of all of us... I am sure if to you if it is a heaven or hell issue you stand opposed to my sons...however if I am lost for obeying what to me was and is the voice of the Lord I say this in the fear of God, I am willing to be lost for I am one and those that have come to God under my ministry are thousands...I am willing to be lost so that they could be saved...for to me it takes ACTS 2:38 to be saved.
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:15 PM
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Again, this is not about a woman being used in ministering; this is about a woman being used in the five-fold ministry.

As far as a woman addressing the Church, please look here:
1 Corinthians 14:27-37
(27) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
(28) But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
(29) Let the prophets [Masculine Noun G4396] speak two or three, and let the other judge.
(30) If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
(31) For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
(32) And the spirits of the prophets [Masculine Noun G4396] are subject to the prophets.
(33) For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
(34) Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
(35) And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
(36) What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
(37) If any man think himself to be a prophet [Masculine Noun G4396], or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Paul makes it clear that prophesying before the congregation is limited to men.

Brother Burk in latin languages which I speak there can be 99 Prophetess and one Prophet but you address them as MEN...Brothers...

In a church service I say Praise the Lord Brothers to 50 men and 200 women...
If the word silence means silence my dear friend then go llook for the greek meaning it is not just quite it is absolute silence...then it would mean she cannot sing, pray or prophecy...
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sorry but I did want to add that last part...typical woman!
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I'll post some things from both sides of the argument.
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