The Difference Between the PCI of the Merger and the Current Counterfeits

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Did you know that some PAJC guys believed in the application of the blood in baptism so strongly that they painted their baptisteries red ...
Christianity and the Cross, page, 132.

That settles it for me thus saith Fudge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OneAccord]

David Bernard, the UPC guru of all things Apostolic.

Originally Posted by OneAccord

David Bernard, the UPC guru of all things Apostolic.

Really?

[SDG]

study The New Testament Greek Lexicon on aphesis ... translated as forgiveness and remission ..


http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=859

Why do you insist on using the English NT translations of two synonymous to fit your OT theology ... ???? Yes... in the Old testament there are separate concepts for forgiveness and the law of remission ... but you can't use it when faced with the word aphesis in the NT ... sorry ...

I'm not going to jigsaw the Word to fit my theology ... NOPE.

and I think Hebrews is clear on who does what ....

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

study The New Testament Greek Lexicon on aphesis ... translated as forgiveness and remission ..


http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=859

Why do you insist on using the English NT translations of two synonymous to fit your OT theology ... ???? Yes... in the Old testament there are separate concepts for forgiveness and the law of remission ... but you can't use it when faced with the word aphesis in the NT ... sorry ...

I'm not going to jigsaw the Word to fit my theology ... NOPE.

and I think Hebrews is clear on who does what ....

I realize the same word is used I have acknowledged that and I addressed it. However you and NO ONE else has ever addressed why there was forgiveness in the OT but no remission if they are identical. They are certainly interconnected and interwoven. Same blood paid for both.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I realize the same word is used I have acknowledged that and I addressed it. However you and NO ONE else has ever addressed why there was forgiveness in the OT but no remission if they are identical. They are certainly interconnected and interwoven. Same blood paid for both.

Oh boy ... this is bordering on heretical and plain stubborn then .... you want to use the words differently because it fits your theology, Elder. If you know it's the same word in the NT ... and Jesus and the Apostles used the same word ....why are you trying to apply two different words and concepts to the OT concepts? ....

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Oh boy ... this is bordering on heretical and plain stubborn then .... you want to use the words differently because it fits your theology, Elder. If you know it's the same word in the NT ... and Jesus and the Apostles used the same word ....why are you trying to apply two different words and concepts to the OT concepts? ....

Same word applied differently.

[ChTatum]

Now, you guys are out of my league, I am just a simple southern hick preaching Acts 2:38, but.......

Someone talked about forgiveness in the OT thru sacrifice, it has always been my belief that sins were never forgiven in the OT, just rolled forward to the next sacrifice.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ChTatum

Now, you guys are out of my league, I am just a simple southern hick preaching Acts 2:38, but.......

Someone talked about forgiveness in the OT thru sacrifice, it has always been my belief that sins were never forgiven in the OT, just rolled forward to the next sacrifice.

Forgiven but rolled forward NO remission.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Forgiven but rolled forward NO remission.

Thus saith the Book of Epley ....