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Old 12-30-2010, 10:47 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?

Thank you, Jason, for your answer. I'd like to follow up with one more based upon your response to Dan's question. Did I understand you to say that you would (or might) end a friendship with someone claiming to be a Christian while still embracing their sin?
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:52 PM
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When I can mail a card??? Is that what you would do? Wouldn't that make you a compromiser because, come on man, mailing them a card would be a sign of approval!!!
Guess that would depend on what the card said. LOL
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:58 PM
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That is simply not true Hoovie, I will see if I can find one of my Bible studies on it.

The Levitical priesthood is no more. Now ALL Christians are Royal Priesthood.

This was unheard of. Civil war broke out among the Maccabees because one tried to be both king and high priest.

And yet we are, everyone of us.

The majority of souls saved should be in the marketplace.

Wish I had time to put more. Never feel that way about yourself.

Business is just as valid a ministry as standing behind the pulpit.

The division of clergy and laity is artificial and was created by the RCC.
Thank you. And I do theoretically understand this. I even have a little lesson I wrote about "slow burn" - how we can effect those we contact with through the Holy Spirit day in and out. Perhaps not the same as a high temperature Holy Ghost revival, but effective nevertheless.

As a sidenote... Did you know that ignition of combustibles like wood generally occurs at about 400 degrees? Yet, there is now evidence that through prolonged exposure these same combustibles may ignite at about 160 degrees?

What I need is to refocus and allow the Lord to work.
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Guess that would depend on what the card said. LOL
I saw a card at Halloween that had a big fire burning and crackled when opened... That wouldn't be so good...
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Business is just as valid a ministry as standing behind the pulpit.

The division of clergy and laity is artificial and was created by the RCC.
I believe this, but I would sure like to understand it better.

I remember reading the Baptists had a program built around fostering this concept. I have searched online for that program without success.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:09 PM
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Thank you. And I do theoretically understand this. I even have a little lesson I wrote about "slow burn" - how we can effect those we contact with through the Holy Spirit day in and out. Perhaps not the same as a high temperature Holy Ghost revival, but effective nevertheless.

As a sidenote... Did you know that ignition of combustibles like wood generally occurs at about 400 degrees? Yet, there is now evidence that through prolonged exposure these same combustibles may ignite at about 160 degrees?

What I need is to refocus and allow the Lord to work.
when I get a chance we can talk.

Most people are clueless what the word ministry stands for.

The most holy person in the church is very likely not the one standing behind the pulpit. And yes I preach this at my church.

Pastoring is but one of a plethora of ministries, and preaching is actually a very small part of pastoring.

The rabbis taught he who makes a miracle possible is greater than he who performs the miracle.
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when I get a chance we can talk.

Most people are clueless what the word ministry stands for.

The most holy person in the church is very likely not the one standing behind the pulpit. And yes I preach this at my church.

Pastoring is but one of a plethora of ministries, and preaching is actually a very small part of pastoring.

The rabbis taught he who makes a miracle possible is greater than he who performs the miracle.
When you find time please start a thread. I would be very interested in this.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:33 PM
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When you find time please start a thread. I would be very interested in this.
Well I certainly will be more comfortable with that than with the one Rend tried to get me to start for the last couple years !!!!!
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:33 PM
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The difference is, Jason speaks it like Jesus....you on the other hand have that bony critical, legalistic finger of condemnation pointing at others. Try and remember you have three pointing back.
You just couldn't pass up a chance to condemn others, could you? Hence the remarks about people on FB, as if that matters to the discussion at hand or as if I care.
This is the best compliment I've ever had here. I know I fall woefully short, but the intent of my words are NEVER, not even in this case to destroy, but to restore, whether it be a sinner, or someone who is a servant of God. I hope I have conveyed that, but I fear that I have not.
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when I get a chance we can talk.

Most people are clueless what the word ministry stands for.

The most holy person in the church is very likely not the one standing behind the pulpit. And yes I preach this at my church.

Pastoring is but one of a plethora of ministries, and preaching is actually a very small part of pastoring.

The rabbis taught he who makes a miracle possible is greater than he who performs the miracle.


When I was first discovering Willow Creek, I checked out their "Ministries" tab and scrolled through the list, which seemed endless. I happened upon something that looked totally out of place and it was called "Hair Dressers." So I read a bit about it and ended up calling the church because I was so intrigued.

To bottom line it....The Hair Dressers Ministry is open to all Hair Dressers at Willow Creek. They meet bi-monthly and study, pray, and ask God for inspiration, creativity and an open door to use their hair dressing chairs as a place for sharing the love of Christ. In effect, they seek to use the scissors, hair dryers, and hair coloring as a pulpit to preach the love of Christ.

So everyday they walk into their shops, they open the door and ask God to open conversational doors so that Jesus can be shared.

They also had a similar group for table servers, golfers, nurses, doctors, etc. What an incredible insight to ministry and using whatever is in our hands for the express purpose of sharing Christ.
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