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10-07-2014, 08:54 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
We do, when we give tithes. We are giving spiritually the firstfruits unto the Lord. In so doing, we give both spiritually and physically, as was also before the Law. When Jacob vowed to give tithes of all before the Lord in genesis, he made the vow both spiritual and physical. How? By putting God first, and then showing it. In water baptism, we undergo spiritual circumcision through real physical water baptism. The spiritual effect is attached to the physical act.
As in circumcision, so also is the tithe.
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10-07-2014, 08:54 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
Better call your pastor on that one!
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10-07-2014, 08:57 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Thats why the Apostolic churches take forever to grow, then shrink when folks see it has fraudulent doctrines. Then they start small again and keep the same pattern of failure. Never looking WITHIN to see why these events are reoccurring.
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Amen. Then you have people who think you should wait around in that mess and wait for the Lord to change things. Call me when the Lord has change things. The bible says a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
Don't get me wrong but if God is dealing with you, you should be for holding truth not tradition. That are Apostolic churches I know about in a nutshell.
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10-07-2014, 08:58 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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We do, when we give tithes. We are giving spiritually the firstfruits unto the Lord. In so doing, we give both spiritually and physically, as was also before the Law. When Jacob vowed to give tithes of all before the Lord in genesis, he made the vow both spiritual and physical. How? By putting God first, and then showing it. In water baptism, we undergo spiritual circumcision through real physical water baptism. The spiritual effect is attached to the physical act.
As in circumcision, so also is the tithe.
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So you think you are physically being circumcised in the water, or is it SYMBOLIC of circumcision?
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10-07-2014, 08:58 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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I want the verse....today
The Law was fulfilled in Christ. But, that which was ordained before the Law continues.QUOTE UNTRADITIONAL
]PLEASE give me the verse for this statement!!!
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You an angry man, ain't ya? Guess I really stepped on your carnal toes, didn't I?
Christ fulfilled the Law - Matthew 5:17-18
Did the Scriptures teach that which was BEFORE the Law was fulfilled? Answer me this.... (in your angry ungodly voice) TODAY!
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10-07-2014, 09:00 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
Doesnt the tithe of the O.T. Law symbolize something also?
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10-07-2014, 09:00 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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So you think you are physically being circumcised in the water, or is it SYMBOLIC of circumcision?
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Did you read what I said, or did you just glance, pick and choose, then gush?
Listen, i would love to continue this diatribe, but I have to go to work and make money, because I love God enough to give Him the first, not the leftovers.
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10-07-2014, 09:01 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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You an angry man, ain't ya? Guess I really stepped on your carnal toes, didn't I?
Christ fulfilled the Law - Matthew 5:17-18
Did the Scriptures teach that which was BEFORE the Law was fulfilled? Answer me this.... (in your angry ungodly voice) TODAY! |
No, actually I am stirring the pot today. Just having a good time.Its fun to be in the drivers seat bro.
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10-07-2014, 09:02 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Amen a thousand times!!
In 2009 my self employment income was cut by a third. As a step of faith I began to tithe off of my gross BUSINESS income instead of tithing on my salary.
In late 2011 by business tanked completely. Money I could have set aside to cushion the blow had gone to the church. In 2012 I made only 8000 dollars with a wife and two kids. I gave 300 dollars to the church that year. You would have thought I had backslid or something. The pastor knew of my situation and yet I was still ridiculed for "getting behind" on my tithing.
Do any of you pro tithe folks want to to step up to the plate and say I was stealing from God? Nobody offered to pay my bills or feed my family. If it had not been for some TRINITARIAN Pentecostals who heard of our plight, we would not have had a Christmas that year.
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I feel you. Sometimes it takes hardship for us to realize certain things. The good thing is now you know that the pastor was not following the Spirit.
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Philippians 2:12 - ...Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
1 Corinthians 1:10 - Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith ...
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10-07-2014, 09:03 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Did you read what I said, or did you just glance, pick and choose, then gush?
Listen, i would love to continue this diatribe, but I have to go to work and make money, because I love God enough to give Him the first, not the leftovers.
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I read it, I am just picking your theology apart for you to see what you are proposing here. I need to work also..see ya later.
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