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10-24-2012, 11:01 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Not a problem if the pastors are fiscally and ethically responsible in their position.
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10-24-2012, 11:25 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Seems pretty obvious since there were kings who didn't rule with an iron fist.
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10-24-2012, 10:27 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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See, here I am again, left in the dark. I attend this church and was told that they resigned. It is sad that people who do not even attend TPC know more about this situation than it's own church members. I was unable to attend the Power Weekend service, when he resigned and only found out about it later when I saw several of the church members posting messages on FB.
I guess instead of seeking answers about this situation, I will just continue to seek God's Word and His truth. It just bothers me not to have any clue as to what is going on.
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I attend TPC also, and you were not the only one told that the son-in-laws received positions and resigned. There are some rumors that this was true. I know that they didn't for a fact because I have spoken with them.
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10-24-2012, 10:36 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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I attend TPC also, and you were not the only one told that the son-in-laws received positions and resigned. There are some rumors that this was true. I know that they didn't for a fact because I have spoken with them.
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What do you mean by "received positions"?
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10-24-2012, 10:53 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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What do you mean by "received positions"?
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There were people on here stating that they had jobs elsewhere and that is not the case.
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10-24-2012, 10:56 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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10-25-2012, 04:25 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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I attend TPC also, and you were not the only one told that the son-in-laws received positions and resigned. There are some rumors that this was true. I know that they didn't for a fact because I have spoken with them.
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I can say from exerience; when these church big shot board/trustees persons gain power/position of/in the church-they can be very RUTHLESS to have/keep charge; even are willing to disrupt order-this is another reason why Pastors must not live in willful sin/error; those board members will have a hayday with yuh.
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10-25-2012, 04:30 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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the OT was explicit. The ONLY tribe priests came from was Levi
David was not a priest
Pastors are not Kings
The Office of the Pastorate is not a throne
We are not the man's kingdom
There is no comparison
BTW One reason God kept David on the throne was God's promise
2Sa 7:13 He shall build a house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.
2Sa 7:14 I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son. When he commits iniquity, I will discipline him with the rod of men, with the stripes of the sons of men,
2Sa 7:15 but my steadfast love will not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away from before you.
2Sa 7:16 And your house and your kingdom shall be made sure forever before me. Your throne shall be established forever.'"
BTW the King can't be compared to the Pastor either because God DID remove Saul.
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I've always been intrigued with the boldness of King David to go in and do things that were forbidden; only allowed of the priest. I would assume that God gave him grace, but not when the gentleman attempted to steady the fall of the Ark of Covneant; smote him dead; David was displeased with God, but then; who's the Boss-God or David???
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10-25-2012, 04:58 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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I attend TPC also, and you were not the only one told that the son-in-laws received positions and resigned. There are some rumors that this was true. I know that they didn't for a fact because I have spoken with them.
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TB brought in Dr. James Hughes and James Kilgore originally to counsel him and help him to be restored if possible. Once additional facts were made known, this became impossible. Kilgore facilitated asking for his resignation, along with every staff member that serves at the will of the Pastor. Several were hired back, such as music minister, children pastor, janitor, church secretary, and Pastor's secretary. It was decided by Kilgore and later agreed by the board, that family members (both SIL's & son) were best not to be rehired, but were to be given a unknown severance amount.
I seriously doubt a new Pastor could be hired with the following in place on the payroll:
Associate Pastor: Former Pastor's Son -in- Law
Youth Pastor: Former Pastor's Son -in- Law
Database Administrator & Receptionist: Former Pastor's Daughter
who knows what he did: Former Pastor's Son
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10-25-2012, 09:17 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by chad1957662
TB brought in Dr. James Hughes and James Kilgore originally to counsel him and help him to be restored if possible. Once additional facts were made known, this became impossible. Kilgore facilitated asking for his resignation, along with every staff member that serves at the will of the Pastor. Several were hired back, such as music minister, children pastor, janitor, church secretary, and Pastor's secretary. It was decided by Kilgore and later agreed by the board, that family members (both SIL's & son) were best not to be rehired, but were to be given a unknown severance amount.
I seriously doubt a new Pastor could be hired with the following in place on the payroll:
Associate Pastor: Former Pastor's Son -in- Law
Youth Pastor: Former Pastor's Son -in- Law
Database Administrator & Receptionist: Former Pastor's Daughter
who knows what he did: Former Pastor's Son
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