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Old 08-25-2010, 07:38 AM
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The point is that the Messiah who came, was also God in flesh... a product of the Incarnation. Jesus was God, and Jesus died and rose from the grave. This is our minimum confession.
I'm curious, Max, as to what you think our minimum confession consists of as it pertains to salvation?
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Sam, can you scan that mimeograph of Ferguson's? If not, I can do it for you and ship it back. Just sayin.'

I found this at Amazon.com - http://www.amazon.com/Big-Argument-T.../dp/0890514690

Ferguson is one of the "24" writers. http://books.google.com/books?id=-3Q...fessor&f=false

He contribute an article here: (Free download) http://www.febc.edu.sg/assets/pdfs/b...shVol16No1.pdf
Thanks for the links! Good articles
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I have a "book" titled "God Veiled In Flesh, A Commentary on the Book of John" by Paul Ferguson with a copyright date of 1971. It actually is 87 mimeographed (?) pages of 8 1/2 by 11 paper printed on one side and stapled in a paper cover.

I think at the time he published that he was planting a church in Wheaton, IL.

I've often wondered if Paul Ferguson was still alive and teaching/preaching and if he had other books available.
He informed me that his main impetus for study is Archaeology or the Historical Jesus. He might publish at a later time but he was not sure on that issue.
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Many are terrified of that. They don't know how to act if they're not sending everybody else to hell - including a good number of the closer brethren.

But I think in the long run it would be beneficial. First of all, it would be the honest and decent thing to do. That's good for us. Secondly, 90% of adult human beings don't want to live their lives in such a tortured and manipulative manner - so it does represent a chance for real growth.

This whole "Three Step or Hell" thing is dying. It simply cannot be maintained in a world with a free flow of information. Too many lies have to be told to substantiate the whole house of cards.

We've built a house of cards on a foundation of sand, and we wonder why our kids drop out of church as soon as they're educated.
I wish I'd have found this forum three years ago!
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I wish I'd have found this forum three years ago!
You are right Sabby. There is a lot of good to be gleaned here.
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