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[CC1]

Originally Posted by Felicity

What my husband meant is that I haven't been cutting it.

I know you're not expecting me to have to defend or justify why I'm not cutting it, but since you and others have mentioned it I might as well just explain that I started letting it grow simply because it's so much quicker and easier to fix. I can clip it up and have it done with and out of my face in the matter of a few minutes and it's done. That's the reason I started letting it grow, not because of UPC or GC or codes or any kind of outward pressure.

Just want to note too that I haven't made a big deal out of what I do or don't do presently in regard to my outward appearance, but others certainly have. The reason for this is kind of puzzling to me really.

If I was making a big deal of it and condemning others or telling others what they should or shouldn't do in regards to how they look would be one thing, but I've never done that.

Love you anyway bro.

Felicity,

There shouldn't be any "anyway" in your love for me! I didn't post anything that should put any qualifier in there. I was just making the observation that your long time avatar did not reflect some of the recent dress code changes you have made.

I was not critcizing those changes or commenting on them in any way. Just noting them as they related to the conversation here.

While it is unusual to see a woman return to "bundage" it is certainly your right to do so. Besides I have a feeling you are not doing it out of a belief uncut hair is commanded in the Bible.

You have also made it clear many times that you personally have never had any issue adhering to traditional UPC standards so I don't think it is surprising to see you adapt to fit into your old fellowship that you and TB have been mending fences with.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by CC1

Felicity,

There shouldn't be any "anyway" in your love for me! I didn't post anything that should put any qualifier in there. I was just making the observation that your long time avatar did not reflect some of the recent dress code changes you have made.

I was not critcizing those changes or commenting on them in any way. Just noting them as they related to the conversation here.

While it is unusual to see a woman return to "bundage" it is certainly your right to do so. Besides I have a feeling you are not doing it out of a belief uncut hair is a commanded in the Bible.

You have also made it clear many times that you personally have never had any issue adhering to traditional UPC standards so I don't think it is surprising to see you adapt to fit into your old fellowship that you and TB have been mending fences with.

"Bundage?" did you Thad-spell "Bondage?"

Bondage to let her hair grow longer and to make it easier to fix and to look nice. Another anti-standard rant is not becoming you CC1.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

Jekyl proved otherwise.

I saw nowhere that Jek sought any special treatment of recognition for himself.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I saw nowhere that Jek sought any special treatment of recognition for himself.

He believes Romans 13:2 demands special treatment for pastors (I didnt say himself) as I do not know him or whether he is a pastor.

If we are to follow that faulty interpretation, then we would be advised to be afraid of pastors as those that can bring their wrath...etc.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I want to clear up a couple of things.
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Felicity and I have been posting on these same boards together for several years now.

We had a friendly rapport on the battle ground that was FCF, though we disagreed on some things then and still do now.

Felicity has always conducted herself toward me as a Christian and a lady. In her spirit and deportment and manner, she reminds me of a favorite Aunt of mine who is very, very dear to me. I noted this years ago, and dubbed her my "Favorite Virtual Aunty."

I have remained in contact with both her and her husband over the years, and this year at GC we were able to meet and share several meals and quite a bit of time together. They have become our friends, not just online, but in real life.

If that seems strange to some, given the differences in our respective ideologies, I don't know what to tell you. I suppose you'll just have to wonder.

I don't particularly care if some think I must therefore be a compromiser, or if others think this represents some kind of inconsistency. I never have yet let any clique choose my friends for me, and I am not about to start now. So the opinions of those who may object is a matter of supreme indifference to me.

Anway, there you have it, straight from the horse's mouth.

I want to say "thank you" for being a great example of a Christian and for including Felicity and I in your circle of friends. We certainly enjoyed the times of fellowship we had together in Florida. We look forward to many more visits together.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

He believes Romans 13:2 demands special treatment for pastors (I didnt say himself) as I do not know him or whether he is a pastor.

If we are to follow that faulty interpretation, then we would be advised to be afraid of pastors as those that can bring their wrath...etc.

Furthermore, that mindset provides a license for pastors to lord over their "subjects".

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by CC1

Felicity,

There shouldn't be any "anyway" in your love for me! I didn't post anything that should put any qualifier in there. I was just making the observation that your long time avatar did not reflect some of the recent dress code changes you have made.

I was not critcizing those changes or commenting on them in any way. Just noting them as they related to the conversation here.

While it is unusual to see a woman return to "bundage" it is certainly your right to do so. Besides I have a feeling you are not doing it out of a belief uncut hair is a commanded in the Bible.

You have also made it clear many times that you personally have never had any issue adhering to traditional UPC standards so I don't think it is surprising to see you adapt to fit into your old fellowship that you and TB have been mending fences with.

CC1....

To be honest, I'm not always sure exactly how to take some of the remarks you make in regard to me and my appearance and any connection that does or doesn't have with UPC. Sometimes I'm not sure but what you're being a little sarcastic or making fun of the fact that I would revert back to a former way of living in regard to my appearance. Your "bundage" comment is just one example but I've always taken your ribbing as mostly just light-hearted because I've never seen you as being a vindictive or mean-spirited type of person.

Like I said earlier, I don't make a big deal out of what other women do in regard to their personal appearance. I don't preach at them nor do I condemn them. And really, I'm not sure why the length of my hair or what I wear or don't wear would be of such great interest to anybody else.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

He believes Romans 13:2 demands special treatment for pastors (I didnt say himself) as I do not know him or whether he is a pastor.

If we are to follow that faulty interpretation, then we would be advised to be afraid of pastors as those that can bring their wrath...etc.

Do you have a Pastor in your life? Do you submit to him? I do not fear my Pastor at all, but if he tells me of an area I need to correct, I am going to strongly consider it.

What does any of this junk of The cat fight and the fallout have to do with the 49 Elders.?

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Dora

With all due respect, sir. NO, it was NOT meant as a slam. If that was a slam to her then it is a slam to myself.

I honestly do not lose any sleep over whether or not a fellow Christian woman wears earbobs or cuts her hair or any such thing. Choosing to follow a particular lifestyle because of heartfelt HG inspired convictions is a GOOD THING. That goes for following UPCI standards of holiness or following a less stringent albeit modest and godly lifestyle.

Why does it bother me so much that some conservative posters show kindness to Felicity? It just sticks in my gut to see Poster J and Poster C give KUDOS to her for posting the identical content, ascribing significance and lending their support to her statements while skewering me and figuratively burning me at the stake for stating the same.


There ya have it!

Let the stoning begin!

It is difficult to separate a person's spirit and attitude from what they have to say. For this reason we might be saying the same thing as someone else, but with an attitude, and therefore folks aren't rejecting what we say, but the manner in which we are saying it.

I fail to see why one would attack someone simply because others are treating them with respect and kindness. Shouldn't one's frustration be directed towards the one's giving the kudos, not the one receiving them?

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Felicity

CC1....

And really, I'm not sure why the length of my hair or what I wear or don't wear would be of such great interest to anybody else.

I could be wrong, but I think there could be some who are speculating that your recent changes have to do with the possibility that you guys might be making your way back into the UPC and therefore have to look the part, and not because of any conviction.

So, unless you have not done so already, a statement from you saying that your recent changes have nothing to do with the fact that you might return to the UPC might put everything to rest. Until then, it is going to be of great interest to some as they will be watching you to see if around the same time that you return to the UPC (if in fact that happens) whether you will start saying that it is a holiness issue...in which case, they may think it is a sell-out because of ulterior motives.

Anyway, that is what I think is happening....who knows?