Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by pelathais

No... my bad. I saw that and deleted my query. I was just trying to see you in a "public debate" in 1969. LOL. My bad.

Um...ya...no...

I edited it and put the little " " marks in to make it clear, should have done that the first time.

[Maximilian]

[QUOTE=mizpeh;937106]

But that is where Trinitarians hedge their definition of God.

We both come to a crossroads of trying to explain the same truth: that Jesus is God, and that the fullness of the godhead is in Him.

We explain this hypostatic union of fully man and fully God with fanciful rhetoric, a smugness that it's all so easily comprehendable, and they try to explain it through this mysterious relationship they call the Trinity. In those "two" camps, there are literally hundreds of variations of explaining the godhead.

I don't think that's an ugly or sad thing. We can all grasp at this topic, open our hearts toward it, and behold God in our own ways, and that's a beautiful thing. He's not waiting to be codified or dogmatized. His mystery can't be put into a bottle, a box or some tidy little creed. The point is that the Messiah who came, was also God in flesh... a product of the Incarnation. Jesus was God, and Jesus died and rose from the grave. This is our minimum confession.

We can cut each other with swords all we want on the other details of which we all "give it our best shot." But it's sad to me to see both sides swinging the sword of dogma in an area that it isn't necessary.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

But that is where Trinitarians hedge their definition of God.

From my experience, few "Trinitarians" in academia really subscribe whole heartedly to the "orthodox" regime of "pure Trinitarianism." They've studied out the debates and have seen the broad scope of history across this question.

The "snap" usually comes when they examine the career and influence of Tertullian closely. That's often a big "ah-ha!" moment. Having lost the ardor of their youth for complexities that cannot be argued with certainty, they often "lapse" into a gentle and benign "heterodoxy."

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by pelathais

From my experience, few "Trinitarians" in academia really subscribe whole heartedly to the "orthodox" regime of "pure Trinitarianism." They've studied out the debates and have seen the broad scope of history across this question.

The "snap" usually comes when they examine the career and influence of Tertullian closely. That's often a big "ah-ha!" moment. Having lost the ardor of their youth for complexities that cannot be argued with certainty, they often "lapse" into a gentle and benign "heterodoxy."

"benign heterodoxy" ... that probably defines my position best.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by pelathais

From my experience, few "Trinitarians" in academia really subscribe whole heartedly to the "orthodox" regime of "pure Trinitarianism." They've studied out the debates and have seen the broad scope of history across this question.

The "snap" usually comes when they examine the career and influence of Tertullian closely. That's often a big "ah-ha!" moment. Having lost the ardor of their youth for complexities that cannot be argued with certainty, they often "lapse" into a gentle and benign "heterodoxy."

Pel,

I think this is correct. My experience at Regent with profs from A of G background to Presbyterian (In the theology dept not Law that was a whole different story) seems to reflect what you said.

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

Pel, I asked him directly if he was "still" Oneness or if he was Trinitarian. He said he "still" is Oneness.

As of July 2010 Dr. Ferguson is Oneness. He confirmed this to me and Jason Weatherly (debater from Arkansas) via telephone this year. There will also be a book coming out soon by a Oneness author that actually references Ferguson's material, which include commentaries on Genesis, John, and Acts. I'll post links when the books is available.

[JN Anderson]

There will be a Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference coming up in March, 2011 in Lufkin, TX. Attentive dates are March 4 and 5th.

Sessions on cultural and doctrinal apologetics with public debate between the Oneness and Trinity worldviews. There will also be sessions on God, Evil, and Inspiration of Scriptures. David Bernard will also be lecturing on the Existence of God and the Oneness of God. There will also be panel Q n A's as well.

We are also calling for sponsors. Sponsors who will uphold this event in prayer! We also need men, women or youth who can help this event financially as well. If you can help sponsor this event or want more info contact Jorge Medina or myself.

james4christ@gmail.com or faithdefenders@hotmail.com

[DAII]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

There will be a Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference coming up in March, 2011 in Lufkin, TX. Attentive dates are March 4 and 5th.

Sessions on cultural and doctrinal apologetics with public debate between the Oneness and Trinity worldviews. There will also be sessions on God, Evil, and Inspiration of Scriptures. David Bernard will also be lecturing on the Existence of God and the Oneness of God. There will also be panel Q n A's as well.

We are also calling for sponsors. Sponsors who will uphold this event in prayer! We also need men, women or youth who can help this event financially as well. If you can help sponsor this event or want more info contact Jorge Medina or myself.

james4christ@gmail.com or faithdefenders@hotmail.com

The tentative dates are in March ... awesome .... plenty of time .... I'll pray God open your and Jorge's eyes as to salvation as well.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

There will be a Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference coming up in March, 2011 in Lufkin, TX. Attentive dates are March 4 and 5th.

Sessions on cultural and doctrinal apologetics with public debate between the Oneness and Trinity worldviews. There will also be sessions on God, Evil, and Inspiration of Scriptures. David Bernard will also be lecturing on the Existence of God and the Oneness of God. There will also be panel Q n A's as well.

We are also calling for sponsors. Sponsors who will uphold this event in prayer! We also need men, women or youth who can help this event financially as well. If you can help sponsor this event or want more info contact Jorge Medina or myself.

james4christ@gmail.com or faithdefenders@hotmail.com

A panel Q&A? What's that? Does that mean the only ones asking questions are a group of non-confrontational yes men?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by DAII

The tentative dates are in March ... awesome .... plenty of time .... I'll pray God open your and Jorge's eyes as to salvation as well.

Being attentive, are we?