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Old 04-30-2007, 10:56 PM
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that is NOT NOT NOT dishonest!!! YOU are for women wearing pants but deny that you are men wearing dresses??? how is that dishonest ?

Thad, what part of 'in this country, men wearing dresses are considered cross-dressing' didn't you understand?

On the same note, women dressing in men's attire are also cross-dressing, but we aren't talking about that. Women dress in women's attire. You saying that I'm believing otherwise is being dishonest.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:58 PM
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Thad, we also aren't living in the 1920's! In 2007, women wear women's pants. They have been for about six decades already! Get with the times, man!

I mean, it's ok to change attire for you 400 years ago, but not ok for women 60 years ago??

Whatever.
when it becomes acceptable for men to wear dresses i might change my mind
until then..............................
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Old 04-30-2007, 11:00 PM
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Thad, what part of 'in this country, men wearing dresses are considered cross-dressing' didn't you understand?

On the same note, women dressing in men's attire are also cross-dressing, but we aren't talking about that. Women dress in women's attire. You saying that I'm believing otherwise is being dishonest.

put your son in one of your sunday dresses and see ! try it out and get back to me
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when it becomes acceptable for men to wear dresses i might change my mind
until then..............................
This isn't about both men and women needing to wear the same apparel, although they did for thousands of years without anyone having a problem with it.

Thad, it's only been the last 400 years that men deviated from culture to wear a completely different garment than most of the rest of the world and you don't seem to have a problem with that, but women wearing pants for the last 60 years or so you just can't get over without bringing men wearing dresses into the discussion.

It's been nice, but I'm off to bigger and better and MORE honest discussion.
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Old 04-30-2007, 11:02 PM
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Thad, what part of 'in this country, men wearing dresses are considered cross-dressing' didn't you understand?

On the same note, women dressing in men's attire are also cross-dressing, but we aren't talking about that. Women dress in women's attire. You saying that I'm believing otherwise is being dishonest.
Just gonna step in and say.....HeavenlyOne...you know Thad is talking about UPC standards. In the UPC, any type of pant (whether it be a male pant or female pant) is considered men's attire. You know that is where he is coming from.
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This isn't about both men and women needing to wear the same apparel, although they did for thousands of years without anyone having a problem with it.

Thad, it's only been the last 400 years that men deviated from culture to wear a completely different garment than most of the rest of the world and you don't seem to have a problem with that, but women wearing pants for the last 60 years or so you just can't get over without bringing men wearing dresses into the discussion.

It's been nice, but I'm off to bigger and better and MORE honest discussion.



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Old 04-30-2007, 11:05 PM
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Just gonna step in and say.....HeavenlyOne...you know Thad is talking about UPC standards. In the UPC, any type of pant (whether it be a male pant or female pant) is considered men's attire. You know that is where he is coming from.
Since when does the UPC write the dress code for the entire world?

He isn't reading anything I write, but saying the same things over and over, forcing me to repeat myself over and over. I don't have time for that.

If he truly wants honest discussion, he can study this out for himself and then we'll talk. Until then, someone else can waste their time.
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Since when does the UPC write the dress code for the entire world?

He isn't reading anything I write, but saying the same things over and over, forcing me to repeat myself over and over. I don't have time for that.

If he truly wants honest discussion, he can study this out for himself and then we'll talk. Until then, someone else can waste their time.
HeavenlyOne....I really think Thad was putting his discussion in the confines of what the UPC and other "holiness" organizations think. You have to know that. Whether he thinks that, seriously, or not....you know Thad...and he was coming to you from the argument of what UPC, ALJC, other "holiness" organizations teach.

What you say...and you have to admit...is directly opposite of what is "taught" in "holiness" churches. Can we agree on that?
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Old 04-30-2007, 11:12 PM
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HeavenlyOne....I really think Thad was putting his discussion in the confines of what the UPC and other "holiness" organizations think. You have to know that. Whether he thinks that, seriously, or not....you know Thad...and he was coming to you from the argument of what UPC, ALJC, other "holiness" organizations teach.

What you say...and you have to admit...is directly opposite of what is "taught" in "holiness" churches. Can we agree on that?
Yes, I agree, as I was raised UPC since the age of 5. I know nothing else.

However, he didn't mention the UPC, but referred to bible scriptures that, while they exist, say nothing he was claiming they said. That's also what I was addressing.

But yes, I know where he's coming from. I argued the same thing for a couple years when first coming on the internet. Someone challenged me to study it for myself instead of repeating what I'd been told and when I was honest with myself, I found that very little of what I was told was even true.

And here I am.
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Old 04-30-2007, 11:14 PM
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prance your sons around in your sunday Dress and then get back to me!


add some high heels and a purse too while you are at it



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