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Old 10-26-2007, 03:46 PM
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I held license ... don't now though ... kinda glad of the vote in Tampa, I'm thinking what I can do with ALLLLL that money I'll be saving.
This is a stir up thread...thats all...Im bowing out...
This dude is a fake!

"ALL the money..." was the give away...
It screams of the CON Atitude!

Bye Smith...
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I held license ... don't now though ... kinda glad of the vote in Tampa, I'm thinking what I can do with ALLLLL that money I'll be saving.
Ok you held license with the UPC.... good we have this established now! WHEW... was getting tired of half answered questions... now... this is V E R Y simple... was the license you held your own???????????? LOL
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By the Way Caston.....In case He missed it...please forward this letter I posted to Reckart!

Nlyp - An Open Letter To Reckart!!!
To think I have to come out of retirement just to address you publically....

Alas...here goes.......

I am well aware of the rules of this forum....this is NOT to down you or ridicule you or tear you down...BUT I am going to take you to task!

I will ONLY speak truth ....and if Truth sounds like ridicule...I am sorry...but...

I know you lurk...I know you are reading this and I know you will get what you want and twist it and take it to your "Blog" site but....let the record show....

You have crossed a line today that does not set well with my Spirit. For you to take the face of the devil and place it with the face of MY General Superintendent is not only wrong but it is UNBIBLICAL.
YOU want to speak of Apostolic.....THEN BE APOSTOLIC!

Name an Apostle that would have done such a cowardly act

You action completely blow your credibility with this minister and to plead your case would thus far be pointless.

What does the Bible say about Railing?
The angels were not even allowed to do it.
Yet you have railed against not only Bro. Haney but against Rev. Mangun as well.

NOTHING justifies this!

YOU sir have openly LIED about this forum on your "blog" site...

Example #1

and I quote from you site...

"What would they think of a church that advertised on tv, had their services broadcast on tv,
and said you were going to hell if you watched or owned a tv? They would laugh in your face, and rightly so!
Because it is ridiculous. Look at this picture, it is done by a UPC member named Daniel Alicea. It is a "UPCI Television Disclaimer"

Here is lie number 1

"it is done by a UPC member named Daniel Alicea"

Daniel IS NOT UPC.....
He is a member of this forum....but you ASSUME he is UPC so go and post what you think is fact when you dont have a clue.

Lie number 2

"It is notable that a big fish like Clint Brown was seen roaming the halls at the UPCI General Conference. (It signals something, but WHAT?) But no, I get almost no hits from people searching for Clint Brown.
I get many from people searching for Tim Dyson! Who is Tim Dyson that was seen with Clint Brown? I never heard of him before. I discovered he was the pastor of a church in Bradenton,
Florida and was in what appeared to be deep conversation with Clint Brown. Dyson seemed like a small fish to me. At first I could not find a website for him or any information about him online. So I wondered why all the interest searching for Tim Dyson and my blog getting hits because I posted the picture of he and Clint Brown. Who is Tim Dyson and what interest does he have in the UPC? Why were he and Clint Brown at the General Conference and signing autographs for hundreds of people? Is he even Apostolic? What are his intentions? So, I decided to dig into the official government records located throughout Florida for answers."

TRUTH -
What you did was take a picture that a poster took with his camera and sent to ME....I posted the picture...
The truth is that Clint came to see old friends - thats all...he was raised UPC.
He had no agenda.....he is related to Timothy Spells wife.
He was treated nice I am sure. What would you think...we throw him out and call him a dog?
YOU took this picture and spun it with YOUR opinion. Well YOUR opinion was WRONG!

"Hundreds of autographs"......Give me a break. Yes he was approached by many to sign his CD's.....BUT "hundreds" is a lie.

Lie Number 3 -

"His (Tim Dyson) church, Suncoast Harvest Center, was also known as Harvest Rescue Mission, located at 1300 17th Ave West, Bradenton, FL, 34205. And looky here- guess who is the Secretary of this Nonprofit Organization? CLINT BROWN! No wonder they were together at the UPC General Conference- they know each other quite well! Don't believe me? Here's proof, here is their 2005 Annual Report where Clint Brown is Boardmember"

Ok....so let me get this straight....Dyson and Brown are at GC together and so now its ok for you to put them and the UPCI in the same camp?

Sir....I am sure you are not that ignorant!
They did NOT come under the invite of the UPC...they came on their own.

It would be fair to say, with your logic, that if the local prostitute from Tampa
walked in your church...we must assume you asked her to come so now you support prostitution? Or a drunk comes to your church so now you support alcohol?

You go on to say....

"I guess "Glorystar" is some sort of deal that churches can sign up for & sell, kind of like selling Pampered Chef or something. You can "become a reseller of satellite programming that promotes a positive lifestyle." Their website, http://www.glorystar.tv/ lists all the trinitarian & whatnot ministries that have channels- I guess one can arrange to have your own church's channel up there, too. I can just see it, the UPCI Network, with the Entertainment Division, the TV Preacher Division, and the Money-Grubbing Division. Send in your dollars today, receive a free Prayer Cloth! Touch the screen, receive the Holy Ghost! Come on, give it 5 to 8 years MAX and the UPC will be producing their own Benny Hinns! And I don't think it is limited to the UPC by a long shot, it's just the org that I know best, and is the leader of the pack!"

Sir...You speak this as though they are.
Read this and ask yourself.....Was this written in a Christian manner?
I think not....I can see plainly that you have HUGE issues with the UPCI....fine.....but to spew some of things you do about us is uncalled for, shameful and flat out sin.
IT is not Christian and it is NOT APOSTOLIC!

Lie number 4 -

You post this immature picture of Bro. Haney and scream immature thoughts and words......Then we read it here on AFF and you add a PSS...I quote.

" PSS: The hate as I predicted exploded on the Apostolicfriendsforum,Com when a poster named THAD delighted in enflaming the posters with comments about this page. His thread was entitled:

{{{BAAMMM!!}}}Ultra Con Trashes Haney! Letter you've been waiting for!

The hate that followed was tremendous. But it was justified they believed because of my parody and carricure of the devil using the face of Kenneth Haney to get the TV voted in. Now if Haney opposed it he had ample time to say so when he was before the convention and BEFORE THE VOTE! The hate posted boiled to 17 pages and over 100 posts before the Admins decided to pull the plug. I did not get to read and copy the loving words as only UPC members and GNC posters can write them. They protested my page and descend into forms of hatred that far exceeds what I wrote about the television and the devil using the face and person of Kenneth Haney.

I would like to do some investigation on THAD. If anyone knows the name of this poster please forward it to me. I understand he attends the UPC Church Apostolic Tabernacle of Merced, California, has two relatives on the District Board and was married to someone named Tawana. I would like to know who this is so I can make a proper response to his singling me out to mount an attack upon me and my stand for holiness and against TV. He called me an "Ultra Con." Also, I would like to know who AmazingGrace from Dallas, Texas is.

One poster identified the delirium against me in these words:

"mocking, ripping, shredding, or otherwise kicking Reckart in the head." These words described the over 100 posted rants that fell just short of calling for my murder and death. The spirit generated by these holier then thou members of Apostolicfriendsforum.com demonstrates rage gone wild that is now acceptable among liberal Laodicaeans."

I saved the best Lie for last!

THAD is not now nor has he ever been married. "Tawana" is name we tease him over...that his future wife will be named "Tawana"...

SO....here is what you have done....YOU have once again...taken what you think and what you have read and posted it on your "Blog" as law......SO you have now lied on AFF and THAD on your site.

Can you see a pattern?

Bottom line...you have issues with the UPC....
You are bitter....your are mad....whatever....
But I tell you in the Holy Ghost that GOD is NOT pleased with it and HE will, as YOU say, "spew it out of his mouth".

Oh...While you are talking about prayer cloths and all the TV things....
Why the asking for tithes and offerings on your website?

You are inconsistent with your ramblings and I would call on YOU to repent and ask God to forgive you for the spin, the lies, the misrepresentation of this forum and the HORRIBLE way you RAILED on the great men of God.

EVEN IF they were devils.....YOU CANNOT RAIL!

You asked about THAD?
Who is he....California....District Board.....Tawana?

You seem to want to go to alot of trouble to ask questions???

Well Ill save you some legwork...

NLYP
Daniel Christensen
State of Louisiana
UPCI General Licensed Minister
5th Generation Apostolic

985-759-0349
My Cell........

Im going to go pray now for you.
Have a good day.
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This is a stir up thread...thats all...Im bowing out...
This dude is a fake!

"ALL the money..." was the give away...
It screams of the CON Atitude!

Bye Smith...
Yea its the typical... disgruntled ex upc that needs to get a life.. im gonna whine about it all they took all my money now Im gonna take all my toys and go home attitude we all love so dearly!

DUDE..(smith thats you) if you didnt want to be part of it.. I will tell you the same as before... GOOD glad you are out!!!! The upc really doesnt need people with the attitude thats like that! If you were so disturbed by having to spend "all that money on your *AHEM* license...." then why didnt you get out earlier?!?!
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You should have just said the song was goofy - - we don't know anyone that is goofy and would be offended.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:49 PM
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This is a stir up thread...thats all...Im bowing out...
This dude is a fake!

"ALL the money..." was the give away...
It screams of the CON Atitude!

Bye Smith...
Why am I a fake?
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:51 PM
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Yea its the typical... disgruntled ex upc that needs to get a life.. im gonna whine about it all they took all my money now Im gonna take all my toys and go home attitude we all love so dearly!

DUDE..(smith thats you) if you didnt want to be part of it.. I will tell you the same as before... GOOD glad you are out!!!! The upc really doesnt need people with the attitude thats like that! If you were so disturbed by having to spend "all that money on your *AHEM* license...." then why didnt you get out earlier?!?!

This is a music thread not a licensing thread ... silly! LOL

I don't even know who brought it up ... maybe that Bro. Eastman or someone? Hmmm beats me ... but I just wanted to know if you all heard this song before, that's all.
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You should have just said the song was goofy - - we don't know anyone that is goofy and would be offended.
Granted...even though "Goofey" does not touch my feeling on the matter...Please edit ....ty
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Renda...I edited it to read STUPID! LOL

I know lots of stupid people.
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:00 PM
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By the Way Caston.....In case He missed it...please forward this letter I posted to Reckart!

Nlyp - An Open Letter To Reckart!!!
To think I have to come out of retirement just to address you publically....

Alas...here goes.......

I am well aware of the rules of this forum....this is NOT to down you or ridicule you or tear you down...BUT I am going to take you to task!

I will ONLY speak truth ....and if Truth sounds like ridicule...I am sorry...but...

I know you lurk...I know you are reading this and I know you will get what you want and twist it and take it to your "Blog" site but....let the record show....

You have crossed a line today that does not set well with my Spirit. For you to take the face of the devil and place it with the face of MY General Superintendent is not only wrong but it is UNBIBLICAL.
YOU want to speak of Apostolic.....THEN BE APOSTOLIC!

Name an Apostle that would have done such a cowardly act

You action completely blow your credibility with this minister and to plead your case would thus far be pointless.

What does the Bible say about Railing?
The angels were not even allowed to do it.
Yet you have railed against not only Bro. Haney but against Rev. Mangun as well.

NOTHING justifies this!

YOU sir have openly LIED about this forum on your "blog" site...

Example #1

and I quote from you site...

"What would they think of a church that advertised on tv, had their services broadcast on tv,
and said you were going to hell if you watched or owned a tv? They would laugh in your face, and rightly so!
Because it is ridiculous. Look at this picture, it is done by a UPC member named Daniel Alicea. It is a "UPCI Television Disclaimer"

Here is lie number 1

"it is done by a UPC member named Daniel Alicea"

Daniel IS NOT UPC.....
He is a member of this forum....but you ASSUME he is UPC so go and post what you think is fact when you dont have a clue.

Lie number 2

"It is notable that a big fish like Clint Brown was seen roaming the halls at the UPCI General Conference. (It signals something, but WHAT?) But no, I get almost no hits from people searching for Clint Brown.
I get many from people searching for Tim Dyson! Who is Tim Dyson that was seen with Clint Brown? I never heard of him before. I discovered he was the pastor of a church in Bradenton,
Florida and was in what appeared to be deep conversation with Clint Brown. Dyson seemed like a small fish to me. At first I could not find a website for him or any information about him online. So I wondered why all the interest searching for Tim Dyson and my blog getting hits because I posted the picture of he and Clint Brown. Who is Tim Dyson and what interest does he have in the UPC? Why were he and Clint Brown at the General Conference and signing autographs for hundreds of people? Is he even Apostolic? What are his intentions? So, I decided to dig into the official government records located throughout Florida for answers."

TRUTH -
What you did was take a picture that a poster took with his camera and sent to ME....I posted the picture...
The truth is that Clint came to see old friends - thats all...he was raised UPC.
He had no agenda.....he is related to Timothy Spells wife.
He was treated nice I am sure. What would you think...we throw him out and call him a dog?
YOU took this picture and spun it with YOUR opinion. Well YOUR opinion was WRONG!

"Hundreds of autographs"......Give me a break. Yes he was approached by many to sign his CD's.....BUT "hundreds" is a lie.

Lie Number 3 -

"His (Tim Dyson) church, Suncoast Harvest Center, was also known as Harvest Rescue Mission, located at 1300 17th Ave West, Bradenton, FL, 34205. And looky here- guess who is the Secretary of this Nonprofit Organization? CLINT BROWN! No wonder they were together at the UPC General Conference- they know each other quite well! Don't believe me? Here's proof, here is their 2005 Annual Report where Clint Brown is Boardmember"

Ok....so let me get this straight....Dyson and Brown are at GC together and so now its ok for you to put them and the UPCI in the same camp?

Sir....I am sure you are not that ignorant!
They did NOT come under the invite of the UPC...they came on their own.

It would be fair to say, with your logic, that if the local prostitute from Tampa
walked in your church...we must assume you asked her to come so now you support prostitution? Or a drunk comes to your church so now you support alcohol?

You go on to say....

"I guess "Glorystar" is some sort of deal that churches can sign up for & sell, kind of like selling Pampered Chef or something. You can "become a reseller of satellite programming that promotes a positive lifestyle." Their website, http://www.glorystar.tv/ lists all the trinitarian & whatnot ministries that have channels- I guess one can arrange to have your own church's channel up there, too. I can just see it, the UPCI Network, with the Entertainment Division, the TV Preacher Division, and the Money-Grubbing Division. Send in your dollars today, receive a free Prayer Cloth! Touch the screen, receive the Holy Ghost! Come on, give it 5 to 8 years MAX and the UPC will be producing their own Benny Hinns! And I don't think it is limited to the UPC by a long shot, it's just the org that I know best, and is the leader of the pack!"

Sir...You speak this as though they are.
Read this and ask yourself.....Was this written in a Christian manner?
I think not....I can see plainly that you have HUGE issues with the UPCI....fine.....but to spew some of things you do about us is uncalled for, shameful and flat out sin.
IT is not Christian and it is NOT APOSTOLIC!

Lie number 4 -

You post this immature picture of Bro. Haney and scream immature thoughts and words......Then we read it here on AFF and you add a PSS...I quote.

" PSS: The hate as I predicted exploded on the Apostolicfriendsforum,Com when a poster named THAD delighted in enflaming the posters with comments about this page. His thread was entitled:

{{{BAAMMM!!}}}Ultra Con Trashes Haney! Letter you've been waiting for!

The hate that followed was tremendous. But it was justified they believed because of my parody and carricure of the devil using the face of Kenneth Haney to get the TV voted in. Now if Haney opposed it he had ample time to say so when he was before the convention and BEFORE THE VOTE! The hate posted boiled to 17 pages and over 100 posts before the Admins decided to pull the plug. I did not get to read and copy the loving words as only UPC members and GNC posters can write them. They protested my page and descend into forms of hatred that far exceeds what I wrote about the television and the devil using the face and person of Kenneth Haney.

I would like to do some investigation on THAD. If anyone knows the name of this poster please forward it to me. I understand he attends the UPC Church Apostolic Tabernacle of Merced, California, has two relatives on the District Board and was married to someone named Tawana. I would like to know who this is so I can make a proper response to his singling me out to mount an attack upon me and my stand for holiness and against TV. He called me an "Ultra Con." Also, I would like to know who AmazingGrace from Dallas, Texas is.

One poster identified the delirium against me in these words:

"mocking, ripping, shredding, or otherwise kicking Reckart in the head." These words described the over 100 posted rants that fell just short of calling for my murder and death. The spirit generated by these holier then thou members of Apostolicfriendsforum.com demonstrates rage gone wild that is now acceptable among liberal Laodicaeans."

I saved the best Lie for last!

THAD is not now nor has he ever been married. "Tawana" is name we tease him over...that his future wife will be named "Tawana"...

SO....here is what you have done....YOU have once again...taken what you think and what you have read and posted it on your "Blog" as law......SO you have now lied on AFF and THAD on your site.

Can you see a pattern?

Bottom line...you have issues with the UPC....
You are bitter....your are mad....whatever....
But I tell you in the Holy Ghost that GOD is NOT pleased with it and HE will, as YOU say, "spew it out of his mouth".

Oh...While you are talking about prayer cloths and all the TV things....
Why the asking for tithes and offerings on your website?

You are inconsistent with your ramblings and I would call on YOU to repent and ask God to forgive you for the spin, the lies, the misrepresentation of this forum and the HORRIBLE way you RAILED on the great men of God.

EVEN IF they were devils.....YOU CANNOT RAIL!

You asked about THAD?
Who is he....California....District Board.....Tawana?

You seem to want to go to alot of trouble to ask questions???

Well Ill save you some legwork...

NLYP
Daniel Christensen
State of Louisiana
UPCI General Licensed Minister
5th Generation Apostolic

985-759-0349
My Cell........

Im going to go pray now for you.
Have a good day.
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... Hmmm ... you're saying that I'm Bro. Reckart hiding behind the name Caston Smith? Well, I'm afraid you're very wrong. Matter of fact I'll give you a call and prove it to you.
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