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10-25-2007, 06:24 AM
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Acts 20:28
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
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the elders were made "overseers" to feed the flock.
Greek for overseers;
episkopos
NT:1985 episkopos (ep-is'-kop-os); from NT:1909 and NT:4649 (in the sense of NT:1983); a superintendent, i.e. Christian officer in genitive case charge of a (or the) church (literally or figuratively):
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
greek for bishop:
episkopos
NT:1985 episkopos (ep-is'-kop-os); from NT:1909 and NT:4649 (in the sense of NT:1983); a superintendent, i.e. Christian officer in genitive case charge of a (or the) church (literally or figuratively):
KJV - bishop, overseer.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
seems to me an overseer and bishop are the same and the bible refers to the elders as overseers.
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10-25-2007, 06:27 AM
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Certain aspects, yes.
One bishop per church and many elders.
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Here's the kicker, is an overseer the same as bishop.
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10-25-2007, 06:34 AM
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Does not the bible imply there are pastors - plural? Seems our pattern may be a bit off. One Bishop but multiple preachers, teachers, pastors, deacons - all appointed by the church elders.
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10-25-2007, 06:37 AM
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Does not the bible imply there are pastors - plural? Seems our pattern may be a bit off. One Bishop but multiple preachers, teachers, pastors, deacons - all appointed by the church elders.
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If overseer is the same as bishop then the churches had more then one bishop in a church.
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10-25-2007, 08:44 AM
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The term "co-pastor" has always confused me because I think of the prefix "co-" to mean something like "together"....i.e. co-op, co-ed, etc.
If the pastor is supposed to be the head of the church, then it reminds me of when old Bro. J.C. Cole used to say "anything with two heads is a freak". 
Then again, it doesn't take much to confuse me anymore. Maybe someone out there can explain how two pastors can CO-EXIST.
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Originally Posted by lisafitzh2o
The term "co-pastor" has always confused me because I think of the prefix "co-" to mean something like "together"....i.e. co-op, co-ed, etc.
If the pastor is supposed to be the head of the church, then it reminds me of when old Bro. J.C. Cole used to say "anything with two heads is a freak".
Then again, it doesn't take much to confuse me anymore. Maybe someone out there can explain how two pastors can CO-EXIST. |
in the event that the 1st pastor cannot perform his duties as expected, the co-pastor will assume the role of pastor.
Or in the case of rapture and one is left behind...
or in the event of a national state of emergency, the co-pastor can assume the role of pastor should the pastor be hidden away for his own safety. Or at any time the Pastor is unavoidably detained like say one day he has to get a colonoscopy, while he is under anesthesia, the co-pastor can assume the position, temporarily. That is position of PASTOR...
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10-25-2007, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Theresa
in the event that the 1st pastor cannot perform his duties as expected, the co-pastor will assume the role of pastor.
Or in the case of rapture and one is left behind...
or in the event of a national state of emergency, the co-pastor can assume the role of pastor should the pastor be hidden away for his own safety. Or at any time the Pastor is unavoidably detained like say one day he has to get a colonoscopy, while he is under anesthesia, the co-pastor can assume the position, temporarily. That is position of PASTOR...
hope this helps
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10-25-2007, 06:27 PM
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how many churches do you know that this really happens?
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Many churches have teams or members who visit and pray for the sick.
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10-25-2007, 06:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Theresa
in the event that the 1st pastor cannot perform his duties as expected, the co-pastor will assume the role of pastor.
Or in the case of rapture and one is left behind...
or in the event of a national state of emergency, the co-pastor can assume the role of pastor should the pastor be hidden away for his own safety. Or at any time the Pastor is unavoidably detained like say one day he has to get a colonoscopy, while he is under anesthesia, the co-pastor can assume the position, temporarily. That is position of PASTOR...
hope this helps
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Wouldn't that be a vice pastor?
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10-25-2007, 06:38 PM
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Isn't the term co-pastor some times applied to the pastor's wife or other family members so they can collect a salary?
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