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03-03-2007, 05:34 PM
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Ya lost me, doc.
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The topic is baptism, not repentance
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03-03-2007, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
The topic is baptism, not repentance
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oh, right! 
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03-03-2007, 05:42 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
The thing is, there is so much more to water baptism than "it remits sins"...there is HOW....there is the symbology. There is typology. I don't think we should put off someone's baptism to do an indepth bible study. There is no record of people putting off baptism till a later time
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I agree that there is more to baptism. The point is, is the gospel and the faith involved in responding to the Gospel response enough to save?
Do I have to know that Naaman obediently dipped in water and was cleansed of Leprosy, and that this is a type or symbol of water baptism in the old testament before I get baptized?
Someone who believes that new birth is complete prior to the water - Spirit doctrine will have no problem putting off baptism, because it is not a life and death soul situation to them. But to us that believe this way, we do not want to put off the very things that saves.
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03-03-2007, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I agree that there is more to baptism. The point is, is the gospel and the faith involved in responding to the Gospel response enough to save?
Do I have to know that Naaman obediently dipped in water and was cleansed of Leprosy, and that this is a type or symbol of water baptism in the old testament before I get baptized?
Someone who believes that new birth is complete prior to the water - Spirit doctrine will have no problem putting off baptism, because it is not a life and death soul situation to them. But to us that believe this way, we do not want to put off the very things that saves.
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so much for Jesus saving ....
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03-03-2007, 05:45 PM
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so much for Jesus saving ....
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You make the craziest statements. Who said "He that believes and is baptized shall be saved." ? Wasn't that Jesus or am I mistaken?
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03-03-2007, 05:47 PM
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You make the craziest statements. Who said "He that believes and is baptized shall be saved." ? Wasn't that Jesus or am I mistaken?
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Jesus. Another scriptural reason for my belief that baptism is essential. NOT an option.
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03-03-2007, 05:48 PM
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Jesus. Another scriptural reason for my belief that baptism is essential. NOT an option.
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03-03-2007, 05:50 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
so much for Jesus saving ....
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Danny boy, You are spreading false witness against me everytime you put words in my mouth like this statement. I do not like it. It is offensive to me, and to many others as well.
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03-03-2007, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
Jesus. Another scriptural reason for my belief that baptism is essential. NOT an option.
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One thing that strikes me is, when Jesus went to be baptized by John in Jordan, John said he needed to be baptized of Jesus, but Jesus answered "Suffer it to be so to fulfill all righteousness". If baptism fulfilled all righteousness in Jesus, what would make me think that I don't need it? Especially when my righteousness is like a filthy rag.
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Psa 119:165 (KJV) 165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
"Do not believe everthing you read on the internet" - Abe Lincoln
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03-03-2007, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RevDWW
One thing that strikes me is, when Jesus went to be baptized by John in Jordan, John said he needed to be baptized of Jesus, but Jesus answered "Suffer it to be so to fulfill all righteousness". If baptism fulfilled all righteousness in Jesus, what would make me think that I don't need it? Especially when my righteousness is like a filthy rag.
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Good thought!
How is this John put the Name in the water when Jesus was baptized and the Name has been in the water since!!!! If you get the name you must go into the water.
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