The forgiveness of God was extended at the death of Christ. It is not appropriated by us until we "bow the knee".
It is kind of like me forgiving a person that has did me wrong without their asking for it. I am free from their deed, but until they ask me they are not. So likewise God has already extended forgiveness, but we are not free until we ask for it.
I like how you put that. So, are we not truly forgiven until we ask, even if the offended has already forgiven us in his heart?
Wow, this is deep stuff.
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True. I was wondering if some view the mistrust as borderline not forgiving in some situations?
That's possible, and I know people who view mistrust as lack of love, but I don't view it that way. All three are different from each other, even though they can go hand in hand.
For instance, I love my children, but I don't trust them to make the right decisions.
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That's possible, and I know people who view mistrust as lack of love, but I don't view it that way. All three are different from each other, even though they can go hand in hand.
For instance, I love my children, but I don't trust them to make the right decisions.
Good points. I agree! I love my son, but he left with a couple of guys that need Jesus, was dropped off and got in his car. He knew I was calling him. Actually, I was outside and it was raining and I was telling him to be careful. I could tell he was ignoring me. Come to find out he was late getting to the church for music practice. There's that trust factor! LOL
Good points. I agree! I love my son, but he left with a couple of guys that need Jesus, was dropped off and got in his car. He knew I was calling him. Actually, I was outside and it was raining and I was telling him to be careful. I could tell he was ignoring me. Come to find out he was late getting to the church for music practice. There's that trust factor! LOL
My son is 16 and will not take driver's ed until spring of 2008, and only if his grades are up to par and he isn't tardy to school more than 3 days a month.
If he cannot meet those expectations, I'm not putting him behind the wheel of a car. I don't trust him to be responsible enough with a car if he can't be responsible with school!
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My son is 16 and will not take driver's ed until spring of 2008, and only if his grades are up to par and he isn't tardy to school more than 3 days a month.
If he cannot meet those expectations, I'm not putting him behind the wheel of a car. I don't trust him to be responsible enough with a car if he can't be responsible with school!
We didn't allow ours to get their DL's until they were 18. Well, you have to let them then, right? lol
We didn't allow ours to get their DL's until they were 18. Well, you have to let them then, right? lol
Zak might be waiting that long!
Pathetic thing is, he already has a car!
LadyRev's husband has a red Grand Am that is sitting unused and he told Zak he'd let him drive it when he gets his license. Truth be told, he's actually going to give him the car as a gift, but Zak doesn't know that yet.
I hope having that car to drive is motivation enough for him to get things done in school!
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LadyRev's husband has a red Grand Am that is sitting unused and he told Zak he'd let him drive it when he gets his license. Truth be told, he's actually going to give him the car as a gift, but Zak doesn't know that yet.
I hope having that car to drive is motivation enough for him to get things done in school!
LOL! It might. I homeschooled so he would just walk outside get in the car, get out of the car and come back inside.
I'm going to bed. I think my husband is off tomorrow and he takes so much energy to take care of. He better not ask me to cook breakfast!
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