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Old 11-30-2015, 07:54 PM
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By not seeing the hypocrisy in attempting to reconcile God is Love with Everyone Else is Lost--which a child could tell you--you actively allow all manner of atrocities. This is hardly an original idea; and it works by approaching it by degrees, as has been done.
But you are asking people to do something that JESUS and the apostles never taught. The Bible says all Muslims are lost. You need to jut accept this and move on.
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But you are asking people to do something that JESUS and the apostles never taught. The Bible says all Muslims are lost. You need to jut accept this and move on.
you are a monster, man. Just accept this and move on.

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you are a monster, man. Just accept this and move on.
No one can enter into the sheep fold any other way but through Jesus. Any other way they are considered a thief and a liar. I don't get where Muslims are exempt?
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So is the Kingdom of God.
well.... it certainly is a direct and present threat to sin....

however, nothing in the law of God as presented by Christianity is a direct and personal threat to the actual lives of sinners.


islam is a threat to the lives of every single person on the planet. even people who are muslim and aren't sinners...
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No one can enter into the sheep fold any other way but through Jesus. Any other way they are considered a thief and a liar. I don't get where Muslims are exempt?
then i would stress again here that i do not exempt any Muslims. They are told to follow Christ also, and God can judge their hearts, too. They will also be known by their fruit.
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however, nothing in the law of God as presented by Christianity is a direct and personal threat to the actual lives of sinners.


islam is a threat to the lives of every single person on the planet. even people who are muslim and aren't sinners...
i would say that this is incorrect on both counts, because for 1) the law of God and Christianity are not the same thing, and for 2) you just believe this, you cannot prove, or even personally demonstrate it, and there is no such thing as a Muslim non-sinner. But if there is, then they are fulfilling the law of God. 1 John 4:12 . . . If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. But only if we are white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.
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then i would stress again here that i do not exempt any Muslims. They are told to follow Christ also, and God can judge their hearts, too. They will also be known by their fruit.
Shazeep doesn't believe what we believe about the need for remission of sins through the death of Jesus and His shed blood.

Col 1:20 KJV And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

The Christ Muslims allegedly follow is not the Christ who died on the cross in our steads. They do not even believe He was crucified . Evidently shazeep does not think it is necessary for the death of Christ and His shed blood to make us righteous and remit our sins. "He done got another Jesus!"
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When the Jesus you have makes it ok to look down upon others, and assume that God respects you, then i must agree that i have found another Jesus.

If "all things are reconciled," then you demonstrate that your faith is not in that anyway, and you make yourself a hypocrite; whereas it is possible, despite any Muslim dogma, that an individual Muslim might spiritually grasp Christ better than those who cry "Lord, Lord."

You judge all Muslims based upon their dogma; but God judges a man's heart.

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When the Jesus you have makes it ok to look down upon others, and assume that God respects you, then i must agree that i have found another Jesus.

If "all things are reconciled," then you demonstrate that your faith is not in that anyway, and you make yourself a hypocrite; whereas it is possible, despite any Muslim dogma, that an individual Muslim might spiritually grasp Christ better than those who cry "Lord, Lord."

You judge all Muslims based upon their dogma; but God judges a man's heart.
God does not bypass His word. His word says faith in his shed blood for remission of sins is a must. Otherwise one is lost.

I agree it is wrong to look down on others. I agree God respects no one above another. But you fail to read the bible and realize God does not abrogate his word. Just because YOU found people who look down on others who claim salvation by His shed blood alone, does not mean the message of salvation by His shed blood alone is still not true.

And you still aren't grasping the fact that if the bible is correct about his shed blood, saying those who reject that shed blood for remission of sins are lost is not looking down on others. You have yet to realize that a person's heart does not have to think itself superior or intend to demean anyone for it to say that those who reject the word of God are lost.

And Islam rejects the crucifixion which the bible says, not me saying, is integral to salvation.

Surah 4:157, Women...

"And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure."

Enjoy your other Jesus now, for it won't last long.
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