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04-07-2015, 10:30 PM
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Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
Mt. 28:1 ...as it began to dawn TOWARD the first day of the week...He was risen.
Mk.16:2... Very early in the morning.....at the rising of the sun...was risen
Luke 24:1...,very early in the morning....was risen
Jn.20:1 ....when it was yet dark.....was risen.
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04-08-2015, 12:27 AM
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Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
Right which means less than 72 hours.
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04-08-2015, 12:29 AM
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Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
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Yes He arose the same time He was buried. In the evening.
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Which means he was not resurrected on the first day of the week, but in the last hours of the sabbath.
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04-08-2015, 08:56 AM
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Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
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Which means he was not resurrected on the first day of the week, but in the last hours of the sabbath.
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That's right. He was buried before sundown, not after. Only after sundown on Saturday would it be the first day of the week. And if he arose the same time of the day he was buried it could not be the first day of the week. Doesn't work, bro Epley.
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04-08-2015, 08:59 AM
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Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
The Passover is considered a sabbath and can be any day of the week per where it falls on the calendar. Therefore, if he was crucified on Wed. Thursday would have been the passover. It definitely makes sense imo.
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04-08-2015, 09:12 AM
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Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
Again, in our minds Jesus has to have risen on Sunday. Its our tradition. Honestly, the day of the week doesnt matter at all to me. All that matters is that he has risen.
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04-08-2015, 09:36 AM
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Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
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The Passover is considered a sabbath and can be any day of the week per where it falls on the calendar. Therefore, if he was crucified on Wed. Thursday would have been the passover. It definitely makes sense imo.
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It's true that the most important issue is that He rose.... whenever.
But, facts are facts. He died on Passover, not before. And the day he died was the day BEFORE Sabbath, not ON Sabbath, according to scripture.
Mark 15:42-43 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, (43) Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.
Luke 23:53-54 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. (54) And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
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04-08-2015, 09:39 AM
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Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
It does not have to be 72 hours.
Albert Barnes:
It was a maxim, also, among the Jews, in computing time, that a part of a day was to be received as the whole. Many instances of this kind occur in both sacred and profane history. See 2Ch_10:5, 2Ch_10:12; Gen_42:17-18. Compare Est_4:16 with Est_5:1. Adam Clarke Our Lord rose from the grave on the day but one after his crucifixion: so that, in the computation in this verse, the part of the day on which he was crucified, and the part of that on which he rose again, are severally estimated as an entire day; and this, no doubt, exactly corresponded to the time in which Jonah was in the belly of the fish. Our Lord says, As Jonah was, so shall the Son of man be, etc. Evening and morning, or night and day, is the Hebrew phrase for a natural day, which the Greeks termed νυχθημερον, nuchthemeron. The very same quantity of time which is here termed three days and three nights, and which, in reality, was only one whole day, a part of two others, and two whole nights, is termed three days and three nights, in the book of Esther: Go; neither eat nor drink Three Days, Night or Day, and so I will go in unto the king: Est_4:16. Afterwards it follows, Est_5:1. On the Third Day, Esther stood in the inner court of the king’s house. Many examples might be produced, from both the sacred and profane writers, in vindication of the propriety of the expression in the text. For farther satisfaction, the reader, if he please, may consult Whitby and Wakefield, and take the following from Lightfoot.
“I. The Jewish writers extend that memorable station of the unmoving sun, at Joshua’s prayer, to six and thirty hours; for so Kimchi upon that place: ‘According to more exact interpretation, the sun and moon stood still for six and thirty hours: for when the fight was on the eve of the Sabbath, Joshua feared lest the Israelites might break the Sabbath; therefore he spread abroad his hands, that the sun might stand still on the sixth day, according to the measure of the day of the Sabbath, and the moon according to the measure of the night of the Sabbath, and of the going out of the Sabbath, which amounts to six and thirty hours.’
“II. If you number the hours that pass from our Savior’s giving up the ghost upon the cross to his resurrection, you shall find almost the same number of hours; and yet that space is called by him three days and three nights, whereas two nights only came between, and one complete day. Nevertheless, while he speaks these words, he is not without the consent both of the Jewish schools and their computation. Weigh well that which is disputed in the tract Scabbath, concerning the separation of a woman for three days; where many things are discussed by the Gemarists, concerning the computation of this space of three days. Among other things these words occur: R. Ismael saith, Sometimes it contains four אונות onoth, sometimes five, sometimes six. But how much is the space of an אונה onah? R. Jochanan saith, Either a day or a night. And so also the Jerusalem Talmud: ‘R. Akiba fixed a Day for an onah, and a Night for an onah.’ But the tradition is, that R. Eliazar ben Azariah said, A day and a night make an onah: and a Part of an onah is as the Whole. And a little after, R. Ismael computed a part of the onah for the whole.” Thus, then, three days and three nights, according to this Jewish method of reckoning, included any part of the first day; the whole of the following night; the next day and its night; and any part of the succeeding or third day.
Notice the example of Esther. I noticed this when preaching on Esther a few weeks ago. She was to pray and fast three days and three nights. But we read ON THE THIRD DAY she was done, which technically was not three full days and nights.
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04-08-2015, 12:44 PM
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Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
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It's true that the most important issue is that He rose.... whenever.
But, facts are facts. He died on Passover, not before. And the day he died was the day BEFORE Sabbath, not ON Sabbath, according to scripture.
Mark 15:42-43 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, (43) Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.
Luke 23:53-54 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. (54) And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
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The citation from Mark is a plain statement he was crucified on Friday. The word "Friday" didn't exist then. Instead they used the term "the preparation". The bible literally says it was Friday, using the 1st century Jewish term for the 6th day of the week.
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04-08-2015, 02:42 PM
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Re: Timeline of Jesus' Death
Jn. 19 the sabbath was a HIGH day not the regular sabbath. Two sabbaths that week the Passover and weekly sabbath.
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