Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Luke

There was a time when there laws against homosexuality.

You want to live in an America where there are laws like that?

[Luke]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

Do you believe those laws should be re-instated?

Don't you?

Proverbs 14:34
Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

You want to live in an America where there are laws like that?

Yes.

Would you call that an evil law?

[Luke]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

The scriptures you quote do NOT condemn polygamy. On the contrary, listen to this:
2 Sam 12:8
And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.

Notice, this was after David took Uriah's wife. God said, if he wanted more things such as kingdom and wives, He (God) would have given him instead of David taking someone else's wife.

The scriptures you quote only show that when a man and woman unite, they're one flesh. It does not prohibit polygamy, as we see in the case of David, Jacob, etc.

It does not say that God would have given David more wives you are reading that into the text.

To say that since it says God gave David his master's house and wives and the house of Israel and Judah means that God approved of polygamy is to twist the text. All that scripture is saying is that God gave David power and authority over all of those things. It is similar to the places where God is said to have given armies or cities into people's hand.

It was not God's will for David or any other king to take multiple wives:

Deut 17:14 When thou art come unto the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me;
15 thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the Lord thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.
16 But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the Lord hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Luke

Yes.

Would you call that an evil law?

So basically you want what the majority of middle east countries have? Instead of an Islamic ruled country you want a judeo christian country? That is in direct opposition to what this country was founded on. Are we stoning the homos?

I would call the law anti american. Not evil.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Luke

It does not say that God would have given David more wives you are reading that into the text.

To say that since it says God gave David his master's house and wives and the house of Israel and Judah means that God approved of polygamy is to twist the text. All that scripture is saying is that God gave David power and authority over all of those things. It is similar to the places where God is said to have given armies or cities into people's hand.

It was not God's will for David or any other king to take multiple wives:

Deut 17:14 When thou art come unto the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that are about me;
15 thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the Lord thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother.
16 But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the Lord hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

What do you think of King Solomon?

1 Kings 11:1-3

It says he had 700 wives and 300 concubines. It does say his wives led him astray. Why? Was it because he had so many or was it because they were Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians and Hittites and Egyptian?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

So basically you want what the majority of middle east countries have? Instead of an Islamic ruled country you want a judeo christian country? That is in direct opposition to what this country was founded on. Are we stoning the homos?

I would call the law anti american. Not evil.

While I would be against a law that peered into people's bedrooms to see what they were dong sexually/consensually, these items were left up to the States for over 200 years because at one time in our history people understood the Federal Government had no say in these matters.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Originalist

While I would be against a law that peered into people's bedrooms to see what they were dong sexually/consensually, these items were left up to the States for over 200 years because at one time in our history people understood the Federal Government had no say in these matters.

Civil rights issues shouldnt be left to the states. See the south before the civil rights act as to why.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

So basically you want what the majority of middle east countries have? Instead of an Islamic ruled country you want a judeo christian country? That is in direct opposition to what this country was founded on. Are we stoning the homos?

I would call the law anti american. Not evil.

Wow America was so anti American for around 200 years I am so glad that we are finally a truly American nation.

I guess George Washington was anti American when he drummed men caught in homosexual acts out of the revolutionary army. Jefferson was anti American when called homosexuality the abominable crime against nature and natures God.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

What do you think of King Solomon?

1 Kings 11:1-3

It says he had 700 wives and 300 concubines. It does say his wives led him astray. Why? Was it because he had so many or was it because they were Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians and Hittites and Egyptian?

According to God he was disobedient.