Are The Democrats Wanton Baby-Killers?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

That's not the same as today's abortion. You should know better.

You're right, it isn't. However, the issue still stands. If God is so "Pro-Life" as we define it today... why the procedures that disregard protecting any potential life in the womb?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

God gave us free will.
In that context, God is indeed pro-choice.

That's the biggest load of tripe I've read on here. It's completely wrong. Claiming that God's allowance of free will means He's somehow for abortion. Absurd!

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

If you had read my entire post, you would have been able to understand why a blanket condemnation of Democrats is not in order.

There are willing (or at least coerced) participants.

I know why you don't blame democrats. The same reason you voted for obama. You agree with too much of their policies to argue over this issue. As I said before, it's cowardice to pretend they are guiltless or have been coerced into their platform of abortion on demand.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

You didn't bother reading what I wrote, you didn't bother thinking about the implications of what I brought up in that post. You didn't bother clearly stating, "Yes, women who get abortions are guilty of Pre-Meditated First Degree Murder" when I asked earlier so, take your silly insinuations and shove them up your toe nails.

Back at you. Remember this the next time you think about ranting about some Republican who you feel is worthy of condemnation.

I bet you'll be voting for Clinton in 2016.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You're right, it isn't. However, the issue still stands. If God is so "Pro-Life" as we define it today... why the procedures that disregard protecting any potential life in the womb?

Sorry, when you equate an OT penalty for sin with modern abortion on demand, I lose any interest in responding.

God is pro life, for you to insinuate He's not is incredibly offensive and wrong.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

That's the biggest load of tripe I've read on here. It's completely wrong. Claiming that God's allowance of free will means He's somehow for abortion. Absurd!


I know why you don't blame democrats. The same reason you voted for obama. You agree with too much of their policies to argue over this issue. As I said before, it's cowardice to pretend they are guiltless or have been coerced into their platform of abortion on demand.


Back at you. Remember this the next time you think about ranting about some Republican who you feel is worthy of condemnation.

I bet you'll be voting for Clinton in 2016.

Bro, you're not reading/understanding what I'm saying and it gets frustrating.

The woman has free will over her body by God's "Intelligent Design". With that free will, the woman has certain GOD-ORDAINED powers over her body AND over the child growing in her body.

The kind of morality that is needed to encourage the woman to use her freedom responsibly in this situation can't really be legislated and I don't think it should be legislated.

Heathens will be heathens. Christians will be Christians. We're a country of both and the reason why we thrive as a nation is because of our Constitution's commitment to individual freedom-- a concept designed by God Himself.

I know explained this earlier.

I really don't know how to make it any more clear.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Bro, you're not reading/understanding what I'm saying and it gets frustrating.

The woman has free will over her body by God's "Intelligent Design". With that free will, the woman has certain GOD-ORDAINED powers over her body AND over the child growing in her body.

The kind of morality that is needed to encourage the woman to use her freedom responsibly in this situation can't really be legislated and I don't think it should be legislated.

Heathens will be heathens. Christians will be Christians. We're a country of both and the reason why we thrive as a nation is because of our Constitution's commitment to individual freedom-- a concept designed by God Himself.

I know explained this earlier.

I really don't know how to make it any more clear.

Sorry, still a load of tripe. God didn't give a mother the authority to kill the child in her womb. Does the commandment " Thou shalt not kill" mean anything to you libs? I have free will to murder and live like hell. Doesn't make it right or mean that God approves or will turn a blind eye and say, "well, I did give them free will."

I understand you're willfully blind and ignorant to the Dems part in this genocide. However, if you're going to ignore their role in abortion, you should really just refrain from discussing abortion at all. It's intellectually dishonest to pretend what the Dems have done is inconsequential.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Well like I said, even if I honestly wanted to blanket blame the Democrat Party for the abortions of American children, doing so is a waste of time and does nothing to address the real issue.


The fact that the Bible does make a difference between abortion and murder when it comes to punishments apparently doesn't mean anything to you either. However, it does to me.


If you're not willing to put a 12 year old girl away for life and you're not willing to give the 24 year old woman the death penalty for getting an abortion, then we don't have anything to discuss.

If Abortion = Murder, then it = Pre-Meditated, First Degree Murder and we would have to prosecute the mother, the abortion doctor, the social worker that helped to arrange the abortion, the friend, spouse, or parent that drives the person to their abortion appointment, and etc.

[Jermyn Davidson]

By the way, I'm not a Liberal Democrat. Still I know your thoughts are not my responsibility.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Sorry, when you equate an OT penalty for sin with modern abortion on demand, I lose any interest in responding.

God is pro life, for you to insinuate He's not is incredibly offensive and wrong.

Divorce it from the context of the abortion discussion. I do find it interesting that God didn't stipulate a waiting period before executing an adulteress. Certainly at least a few who were stoned for adultery were pregnant.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Sorry, still a load of tripe. God didn't give a mother the authority to kill the child in her womb. Does the commandment " Thou shalt not kill" mean anything to you libs? I have free will to murder and live like hell. Doesn't make it right or mean that God approves or will turn a blind eye and say, "well, I did give them free will."

I understand you're willfully blind and ignorant to the Dems part in this genocide. However, if you're going to ignore their role in abortion, you should really just refrain from discussing abortion at all. It's intellectually dishonest to pretend what the Dems have done is inconsequential.

So, if a woman wished to procure an abortion... you'd use the government to force her to give birth against her wishes. Now that's not frightening in the least is it???

Any government that can force a woman to give birth... can force her to abort. Both are equal violations of personal sovereignty.

[Aquila]

If abortion is murder... and it's outlawed on account of it being so... there isn't a statute of limitations on murder. Nor can murder be grandfathered in. The Government would have to go on a virtual witch hunt to charge any woman it can prove procured an abortion with murder. Along with medical staff.

To do anything less would actually lower the value of human life.