Bundy Ranch, BLM, Harry Reid and the Chinese

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

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Study the desert tortoise issue, Jermyn. It's a hoax. The tortoise has lived for a hundred years in harmony with the cattle. The feds don't care about the tortoise, they want the LAND!

Why are you on the side of the federal government owning 85% of a state for heaven's sake?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Study the desert tortoise issue, Jermyn. It's a hoax. The tortoise has lived for a hundred years in harmony with the cattle. The feds don't care about the tortoise, they want the LAND!

Why are you on the side of the federal government owning 85% of a state for heaven's sake?

I am on the side of law and order.

bundy is breaking the law. he and his supporters are way out of order.

when his supporters dug into sniper positions to aim at the LEO's just trying to do their job, they became my enemies and enemies of our country!

But bundy was wrong and is wrong, long before this junk ever happened.

[Jermyn Davidson]

And I don't even "like" cops-- but wrong is wrong and these clowns....

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Will anyone please attempt to REFUTE the stated facts of this case?

(1) The law (in question) is clear,

(2) the cattle was taken legally by court order,

(3) bundy supporters came from many states,

(4) many of them armed,

(5) and they were strategizing their use of deadly force against legitimate law enforcement officers.

(6) Part of their strategizing included the use of snipers and the placement of women in what they thought would be the primary line of fire.

(7) The bozo bundy supporters purposefully disrupted legitimate law enforcement operations-- these people were the thugs in this case.

(8) The Feds backed down, to their credit, to avoid a situation that was clearly headed towards bloody violence.

(9) Yes, many of the bozo bundy supporters are members of extreme right-winged militia groups.

(10) Yes, many of the people who participate in those types of groups are racists.

(11) Yes, former Sheriff Mack has collaborated with a noted white supremacist in the recent past.

(12) Yes, Timothy McVeigh had A LOT in common with many of bozo bundy supporters.



No one dares to refute the truth.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I am on the side of law and order.

bundy is breaking the law. he and his supporters are way out of order.

when his supporters dug into sniper positions to aim at the LEO's just trying to do their job, they became my enemies and enemies of our country!

But bundy was wrong and is wrong, long before this junk ever happened.

You shouldn't gloss over the real issue here. Before Bundy's cases went to court, a case was brought before the Interior Board of Land Appeals. Both sides presented their sides as to whether the livestock was detrimental to the desert tortoise. The conclusion was that the ranchers were right, and that the tortoise actually benefited by having the cattle on the land. One reason is that the manure contains protein which the tortoise uses for food.

So, go back to WHY the federal government has pushed out 52 ranchers, Jermyn! Why are you okay with that? My father was a rancher and experienced the power grabbing of the federal government. Why are you okay with that?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You shouldn't gloss over the real issue here. Before Bundy's cases went to court, a case was brought before the Interior Board of Land Appeals. Both sides presented their sides as to whether the livestock was detrimental to the desert tortoise. The conclusion was that the ranchers were right, and that the tortoise actually benefited by having the cattle on the land. One reason is that the manure contains protein which the tortoise uses for food.

So, go back to WHY the federal government has pushed out 52 ranchers, Jermyn! Why are you okay with that? My father was a rancher and experienced the power grabbing of the federal government. Why are you okay with that?

Vigilante snipers aimed at LEO's!

Women DELIBERATELY placed in the line of fire!


Why am I not ok with any of this!?

There is a right way and a wrong way to go about doing things.

bundy and his clowns are wrong.

[Pressing-On]

One last note, Jermyn. The feds want Cliven to downsize his herd from over a 1,000 head of range fed cattle, beef that I buy, to 150 head. That makes my meat prices go up for solar wind that kills birds and unnaturally heats up the land. And you need coal plants to operate the wind source. Give me my range fed beef any day. I think you and the feds need to take a hike.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

One last note, Jermyn. The feds want Cliven to downsize his herd from over a 1,000 head of range fed cattle, beef that I buy, to 150 head. That makes my meat prices go up for solar wind that kills birds and unnaturally heats up the land. And you need coal plants to operate the wind source. Give me my range fed beef any day. I think you and the feds need to take a hike.

Oh well.

Thanks for not refuting any of the facts of this case.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Vigilante snipers aimed at LEO's!

Women DELIBERATELY placed in the line of fire!

Why am I not ok with any of this!?

There is a right way and a wrong way to go about doing things.

bundy and his clowns are wrong.

JD is clearly looking at this from an Oprah pov...basing his statements on emotions and not facts.

I'll post more when I get to a computer.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

JD is clearly looking at this from an Oprah pov...basing his statements on emotions and not facts.

I'll post more when I get to a computer.

YES!!!

Refute the facts I have presented!