The World Doesn't Buy Your Explanations

[tv1a]

It's his way of ducking the issue. ALWAYS question the messenger's motives and ignoring the message. It is his m.o. is to belittle the messenger in hopes the message is lost in the the so-called assessing the character of the poster. I'm not the only one who experiences this. It doesn't bother me too much. There is no plausible defense for those views.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I don't know this guy. I haven't been on forums much for a while until recently. Didn't know his reputationfor being a cynic. If you two have a history and you feel you can judge his motives through his words, then I'll give you the benfit of the doubt. My apologies. It appeared you were assuming things about his conversation that I felt could not be discerned from a speculative vantage point. I understand now you are not speculating, rather, you are assessing.:diggin

[H2H]

Originally Posted by tv1a

The people I know understand all the elements described below because s because there is Bible to back it up. Okay... Maybe an alcohol ban is extreme, but they understand why. There is no scripture to back up the pro internet/anti television view. Even the cavemen can see the inconsistency with that.

does the facht that I do not watch much TV but do get on the internet quite a bit make me pro internet/anti television? (IYO)

Originally Posted by tv1a

It's his way of ducking the issue. ALWAYS question the messenger's motives and ignoring the message. It is his m.o. is to belittle the messenger in hopes the message is lost in the the so-called assessing the character of the poster. I'm not the only one who experiences this. It doesn't bother me too much. There is no plausible defense for those views.

A more efficient way to describe this would be "evaluating source credibility"

[tv1a]

I have documented multiple sources which were confirmed by others who have no ties to me, and the messenger's credibility is questioned... Your post is flawed.

Originally Posted by apersimmon

A more efficient way to describe this would be "evaluating source credibility"

[tv1a]

Some people on this forum believes nothing good can come from television, even with a filter while ignoring the fact they have to use a filter to make the internet more acceptable. The straining a gnat and swallowing the camel act even made Jesus furious.

Originally Posted by H2H

does the facht that I do not watch much TV but do get on the internet quite a bit make me pro internet/anti television? (IYO)

[tv1a]

I am not suprised this quote caused the stir it did. The denial of some the indignation of "airing the dirty laundry". And everyone missed the key little phrase

the denomination our church belongs to

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Anything a denomination believes is fair game.

As far as I know the issue wasn't about the flaws of television. The issue same flaws which resulted in tv bans are ignored when people want to use internet.

Here is the quote IN CONTEXT again. Discuss the message.

Originally Posted by tv1a

Topic came up at work about television. I mention the denomination our church belongs to doesn't allow television, but allows the internet. I attempted the Larry Booker explanation and was shot out of the water rather quickly by those pagans. Everyone person in that conversation agreed the internet is more dangerous than television. Not one of those heathen thought the anti-tv/pro-internet made sense.

[HeavenlyOne]

Yesterday (Monday), I didn't do much on the internet. I read my online newspapers, AFF, GNC, CK, email, and EC. I left the internet on, like I usually do, leaving up only an online game that I play once in a while, and it's been up for about a week straight now.

I work midnight shift last night and slept most of the day today. When I went online about 5pm, I was shocked to see a page on my screen of scantily clad women, and some of them were topless (that's as extreme as it got).

I was thinking my son had ventured up here (he knows he isn't supposed to be on the internet) while I was gone but he was headed to bed when I left for work and wasn't home from school when I woke up, but I looked up my history.

First off, let me say that this was a pop-up. I don't usually get any because of my blockers, and I don't get on sites that aren't appropriate to warrant that kind of pop-up.

I looked at the history and every page was mine. Nothing that my son would have went to. I am puzzled by getting this pop-up but I couldn't help but think of this topic and how I have yet to turn on my TV and see something I didn't want to see or want my children to see.

Thankfully, my son wasn't up here. He would have seen more than he would be able to see on the worst channel I have on cable TV.

I don't buy the 'well, it's never happened to me' storyline either. I just think some don't want to admit it.

[tv1a]

My google toolbar works great for blocking pop-ups. Works better than Norton and McAfee, and google's pop up blocker is free and is constantly updated.

Thanks for sharing your story At least someone has the intestinal fortitude to say in spite of all the precautions one uses, some questionable content can still infiltrate one's coumputer....

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Yesterday (Monday), I didn't do much on the internet. I read my online newspapers, AFF, GNC, CK, email, and EC. I left the internet on, like I usually do, leaving up only an online game that I play once in a while, and it's been up for about a week straight now.

I work midnight shift last night and slept most of the day today. When I went online about 5pm, I was shocked to see a page on my screen of scantily clad women, and some of them were topless (that's as extreme as it got).

I was thinking my son had ventured up here (he knows he isn't supposed to be on the internet) while I was gone but he was headed to bed when I left for work and wasn't home from school when I woke up, but I looked up my history.

First off, let me say that this was a pop-up. I don't usually get any because of my blockers, and I don't get on sites that aren't appropriate to warrant that kind of pop-up.

I looked at the history and every page was mine. Nothing that my son would have went to. I am puzzled by getting this pop-up but I couldn't help but think of this topic and how I have yet to turn on my TV and see something I didn't want to see or want my children to see.

Thankfully, my son wasn't up here. He would have seen more than he would be able to see on the worst channel I have on cable TV.

I don't buy the 'well, it's never happened to me' storyline either. I just think some don't want to admit it.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by tv1a

My google toolbar works great for blocking pop-ups. Works better than Norton and McAfee, and google's pop up blocker is free and is constantly updated.

Thanks for sharing your story At least someone has the intestinal fortitude to say in spite of all the precautions one uses, some questionable content can still infiltrate one's coumputer....

The google toolbar is also what I have.

This was a pop-up though. There was no previous page to access nor was it a simple web address, but one with other numbers and characters to it. It was also one with local singles, but I'm puzzled where it came from, but the women on there were from my neck of the woods, as if I'd done a search, but again, nothing in my history and no previous page to access. It was like someone had typed it all in and left it, but that's impossible, since my son, aside from not going to sites like that, wouldn't put in a web addy like this one had.

I just checked and the pop-up isn't in my history either. Weird.

[tv1a]

Before you trust their judgment, allow me to present facts.

A few weeks ago an "outsider" told me their definition of apostolic without any prompting. Their observation of what an apostolic is was different than those who wear the apostolic label. I presented the conversation on this forum and my motives were questioned. My integrity was questioned. It wasn't until one brave person admitted he experienced something similar and I quoted passages from Jim Yohe's Believer Bootcamp. I'm not the only person it happens to.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I don't know this guy. I haven't been on forums much for a while until recently. Didn't know his reputationfor being a cynic. If you two have a history and you feel you can judge his motives through his words, then I'll give you the benfit of the doubt. My apologies. It appeared you were assuming things about his conversation that I felt could not be discerned from a speculative vantage point. I understand now you are not speculating, rather, you are assessing.:diggin