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Old 06-18-2013, 05:53 PM
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Re: Historical References Regarding 1st Cent. Bapt

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May I ask this question, and please note that I am not seeking to be contentious or abrasive. You all know I once held that one must be baptized in Jesus name to be saved, then didn't, then did, then didn't, etc. But, my question is, if a person is going down in the waters of baptism with the preacher saying the triune formula, would they not be doing so in the authority of Christ? I do believe Jesus name baptism is an acceptable formula for baptism, but the point I want to make is this, that if it were that vitally important that baptism be done correctly, why then is the Holy Spirit being so heavily and wonderfully being poured out upon those who have not been baptized in Jesus name?

Like I said, not to be contentious, but just a point to ponder.
Matt. 28:19 was a direct order.
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:18 PM
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Matt. 28:19 was a direct order.
That nobody obeyed
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:23 PM
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Anyone who would like to explore the writings of the "Early Church Fathers," can find the complete writings from a variety of sources by simply typing "Early Church Fathers download pdf" into your search bar. Most of the sites offer the complete 38 volume set in a compressed or "zipped" file. Others can be viewed directly from the site itself. Most are searchable. Here is one link:

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Too many of those writings of those "Early Church Fathers" were "Corrected".
The Catholic church has admitted to it.
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Too many of those writings of those "Early Church Fathers" were "Corrected".
The Catholic church has admitted to it.
Give examples. Not some book and page number, but the actual change the roman catholic sect has admitted to making. Quote it. Post it.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:27 PM
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Give examples. Not some book and page number, but the actual change the roman catholic sect has admitted to making. Quote it. Post it.
How about the whole 'Book of the Popes'
a complete fictitious book, does it count or not?
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Too many of those writings of those "Early Church Fathers" were "Corrected".
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Give examples. Not some book and page number, but the actual changes the roman catholic sect has admitted to making. Quote it. Post it.
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That nobody obeyed

It was obeyed.
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It was obeyed.
OK, Show me in the Book of Acts where it was obeyed?
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Didn't the early church also do nude baptisms?

I think the baptismal robes were added later...
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OK, Show me in the Book of Acts where it was obeyed?
Acts 2:38 is one. The name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost, is Jesus. Would we assume they disobeyed Our Lord's command?
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