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Old 12-01-2012, 06:18 AM
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Re: Another Innocent Dead 17 yr Old

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

Blacks are three times more likely to use a hand gun, and twice more likely to use a knife.

Hispanics commit three times more violent crimes than whites, but the statistics are nebulous because sometimes they are classified as white, so it could be far higher.

The best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percent of the population that is black and Hispanic.

Blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit a robbery.

Forty-five percent of black crime is against whites, 43 against other blacks, and 10 percent against Hispanic.

White crime stats against blacks are so small to not even be reportable BUT ITS STILL WHITEY'S FAULT ! OH PS one year in Chicago 2009 they had like 500 murders in a WEEKEND ~~~~~ all BLACK !!! NOT A WORD SAID BY THE MEDIA or JD, he trolls for any anecdotal incident even when the guy aint white and comes with the fake rage ! like a lot of blacks do just to draw attention away from their own problems, same as they do with the phony republicans are racist claims ,when in fact its their Dem party!
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:21 AM
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So your saying the greatest danger to a black man is another black man?
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:31 AM
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One thing about this race issue is the opportunity it presents let our light shine by othersbseeing purpose love for each other of all races. the women at the well is a prime example .
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:01 AM
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So your saying the greatest danger to a black man is another black man?
winner winner chicken dinner and if ya holler real loud about a hispanic shooting of a black (ah just call him white makes for better press) even if its justified, then no one will notice that its a black problem not a white problem !
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One thing about this race issue is the opportunity it presents let our light shine by othersbseeing purpose love for each other of all races. the women at the well is a prime example .
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Apparently, no one read the above from page 1 of this thread as my post.

Race is a factor in this incident and in the Martin incident. However, the problem is the misinterpretation of {the STAND YOUR GROUND} law.


Originalist and others have asked questions that alluded to race, but the major reason for this incident and the Martin incident is the misinterpretation of a poorly written law.
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By the way, it was long after the incident when zim's lawyers declined to try to use the SYG law to defend his indefensible actions.

What is interesting is the actual increase in violent crimes and murder in the states that have enacted the "Stand Your Ground" type laws.
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By the way, it was long after the incident when zim's lawyers declined to try to use the SYG law to defend his indefensible actions.

What is interesting is the actual increase in violent crimes and murder in the states that have enacted the "Stand Your Ground" type laws.
Well first off I'd like to see actual statistics on those "other states", because as far as I know, at least the last time I checked (and I will admit it was a LONG time ago that I last checked) Florida was the only state who had a law that was so extensive and so vague. Yes it doesn't surprise me that Florida has seen a rise in crimes since their version of SYG was passed but I don't know of any other states with such an extreme law.
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By the way, it was long after the incident when zim's lawyers declined to try to use the SYG law to defend his indefensible actions.

What is interesting is the actual increase in violent crimes and murder in the states that have enacted the "Stand Your Ground" type laws.
You may be right about about that - I have not seen those stats. I do think it's noteworthy that an increase in killing and gun deaths are not necessarily "violent crimes and murder". It could be justifiable homicide. An important point that the media and anti-gun peeps very often do not make.
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Re: Another Innocent Dead 17 yr Old

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Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

Blacks are three times more likely to use a hand gun, and twice more likely to use a knife.

Hispanics commit three times more violent crimes than whites, but the statistics are nebulous because sometimes they are classified as white, so it could be far higher.

The best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percent of the population that is black and Hispanic.

Blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit a robbery.

Forty-five percent of black crime is against whites, 43 against other blacks, and 10 percent against Hispanic.

White crime stats against blacks are so small to not even be reportable BUT ITS STILL WHITEY'S FAULT ! OH PS one year in Chicago 2009 they had like 500 murders in a WEEKEND ~~~~~ all BLACK !!! NOT A WORD SAID BY THE MEDIA or JD, he trolls for any anecdotal incident even when the guy aint white and comes with the fake rage ! like a lot of blacks do just to draw attention away from their own problems, same as they do with the phony republicans are racist claims ,when in fact its their Dem party!
I'd appreciate links for all these stats. Thanks in advance.
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You may be right about about that - I have not seen those stats. I do think it's noteworthy that an increase in killing and gun deaths are not necessarily "violent crimes and murder". It could be justifiable homicide. An important point that the media and anti-gun peeps very often do not make.
Gun control really has nothing to do with SYG. If you truly understand the implications of SYG you'll understand that it really has nothing to do with Gun Control or even the Castle Doctrine which it's been compared too. I'm staunchly pro-gun and staunchly pro-Castle Doctrine, and I know many who are as well but like me find Florida's SYG to be way to out there for them to support.
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