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Old 10-06-2012, 10:49 PM
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Re: The Name of Jesus the Christ

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I believe right now that he is
The son of Jehovah
and that he is Jehovah all at the same time.
Let me rephrase the question and eliminate the loop hole.

Did you ever at anytime in your life believed that just Jesus was the Son of Jehovah...before you started to believe that Jehovah was Jesus Himself?

A. yes

B. no
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:52 PM
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Re: The Name of Jesus the Christ

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Let me rephrase the question and eliminate the loop hole.

Did you ever at anytime in your life believed that just Jesus was the Son of Jehovah...before you started to believe that Jehovah was Jesus Himself?

A. yes

B. no
I still believe that Jesus is the Son of Jehovah....
I believe in only one God and one Person.
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1. God is one, in whom is a Divine trinity,
and the Lord God the Savior Jesus Christ is that one.
2. Saving faith is to believe in Him.
3. Evils should not be done, because they are of the devil and from the devil.
4. Goods should be done, because they are of God and from God.
5. These should be done by man as if by himself; but it should be believed that they are done
by the Lord in man and through man.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:57 PM
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Re: The Name of Jesus the Christ

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I still believe that Jesus is the Son of Jehovah....
I believe in only one God and one Person.
At one time in your life you believed that Jesus was the Son of God and you did not believe that God was Jesus.

How come you believed this at that time in your life? What exactly was it that made you believe this way at that time?
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:09 PM
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Re: The Name of Jesus the Christ

I've read Swedenborg's Book :

Doctrine of the Lord:

http://www.heavenlydoctrines.org/Wri...%20(Potts).htm

"21. At the present day many think of the Lord no otherwise than as of a common man like themselves, because they think solely of His Human, and not at the same time of His Divine, when yet His Divine and His Human cannot be separated. For the Lord is God and Man, and God and Man in the Lord are not two, but one Person, yes, altogether one, just as soul and body are one man, according to the doctrine received in the whole Christian world which was formulated by Councils, and is called the doctrine of the Athanasian Creed. Therefore, lest anyone should in future separate in his thought the Divine and the Human in the Lord, "
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1. God is one, in whom is a Divine trinity,
and the Lord God the Savior Jesus Christ is that one.
2. Saving faith is to believe in Him.
3. Evils should not be done, because they are of the devil and from the devil.
4. Goods should be done, because they are of God and from God.
5. These should be done by man as if by himself; but it should be believed that they are done
by the Lord in man and through man.
True Christian Religion №3
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:20 PM
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Re: The Name of Jesus the Christ

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I've read Swedenborg's Book :

Doctrine of the Lord:

http://www.heavenlydoctrines.org/Wri...%20(Potts).htm

"21. At the present day many think of the Lord no otherwise than as of a common man like themselves, because they think solely of His Human, and not at the same time of His Divine, when yet His Divine and His Human cannot be separated. For the Lord is God and Man, and God and Man in the Lord are not two, but one Person, yes, altogether one, just as soul and body are one man, according to the doctrine received in the whole Christian world which was formulated by Councils, and is called the doctrine of the Athanasian Creed. Therefore, lest anyone should in future separate in his thought the Divine and the Human in the Lord, "
So after you read this, you begin to believe that God was Jesus...

What blessings did you see manifest themselves in your life that was the direct result due to the change of what you believed?
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:21 PM
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Re: The Name of Jesus the Christ

Make a list of them for me and post it.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:23 PM
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So after you read this, you begin to believe that God was Jesus...

What blessings did you see manifest themselves in your life that was the direct result due to the change of what you believed?
Peace, being filling with tranquility , not fearing tomorrow, understanding that I need to better myself spiritually and socially.
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1. God is one, in whom is a Divine trinity,
and the Lord God the Savior Jesus Christ is that one.
2. Saving faith is to believe in Him.
3. Evils should not be done, because they are of the devil and from the devil.
4. Goods should be done, because they are of God and from God.
5. These should be done by man as if by himself; but it should be believed that they are done
by the Lord in man and through man.
True Christian Religion №3
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:35 PM
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Peace, being filling with tranquility , not fearing tomorrow, understanding that I need to better myself spiritually and socially.
How come faith in the name of Jesus the Son of God could not do this for you?
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:40 PM
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Re: The Name of Jesus the Christ

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How come faith in the name of Jesus the Son of God could not do this for you?
I do have faith in Jesus the Son of God.
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1. God is one, in whom is a Divine trinity,
and the Lord God the Savior Jesus Christ is that one.
2. Saving faith is to believe in Him.
3. Evils should not be done, because they are of the devil and from the devil.
4. Goods should be done, because they are of God and from God.
5. These should be done by man as if by himself; but it should be believed that they are done
by the Lord in man and through man.
True Christian Religion №3
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:57 PM
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I do have faith in Jesus the Son of God.
Not long ago the Spirit of the Lord sent me to this upc church. If the pastor reads this he should know exactly who I am.

The Spirit of the Lord told me to sit on the front row. Anyway, the pastor started to preach and he begin to try to motivate this congregation to pray harder and longer so as they could hear the voice of the Lord more than they have been. He called it elevated prayer. He preach for quiet some time to them if they would elevate their prayers they would hear the voice of the Lord. And he went about preaching how back in the days of Amos I think it was that there was a famine for the word of God and Amos being a simple common man heard the voice of God. The whole time he was preaching this to his congregation...the Lord was talking to me on the front row sitting right in front of him.

Later on the Lord told me to send that pastor an email and ask him why he had to elevate his prayer if the Spirit of God lived within him?

I never heard from him.
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