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Old 06-20-2012, 07:47 PM
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No, I am not saying that people from an emotionally charged service didn't spill into the restaurant and decide to keep having church.
It started with the waitress. They didn't spill into the Restaurant speaking in tongues and rolling on the ground.


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I did see the video (or half of it). I was attempting to say that I would have been embarrassed to have been part of that group had I been there.
Embarrassed to see someone receive the gift of the Holy Ghost? Public is the best place for someone to receive the Holy Ghost. We find out what happens when "Having Church" spills out into the open in Acts 2 on the Day of Pentecost.

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There is a time and a place (and a way!) to do everything. Having a UPC alter call in a restaurant is neither the time or the place.
Who dictates when and where the Spirit of God is poured out? You? Me? Lee Stoneking? (By the way, Stoneking wasn't present at all for any of this)

Next time God wants to move in a restaurant and has the atmosphere to move in, I'll make sure to stop Him "Sorry big G, time and a place. Time and a place."

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I also noticed all the people very uncomfortably sitting around trying to order their food and eat.
The only people in this restaurant at this time of night were Pentecostals (**EDIT** Or guests of Pentecostals). It is my understanding they stayed open late to accommodate the conference. If they were uncomfortable, they could have left. I'd rather deal with some unhappy customers than choke the Spirit of God.

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Old 06-20-2012, 09:40 PM
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Into the highways compelling them? If we did half as much to leave our worldly mindset and uplift our brethren the catholic whore church and the trinitarian harlots wouldnt be dominating the earth. We have hid away in shame and secrecy long enough. Hows that working btw?
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I sense a Montyt Python bit coming on.

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he wasnt clinically dead......... no o0ne pronounced him dead.....
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:53 PM
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I sense a Montyt Python bit coming on.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:58 PM
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Lol. Good fellowship here nonetheless
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:13 PM
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Lol. Good fellowship here nonetheless
Most of us are one big happy family.

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Old 06-20-2012, 11:17 PM
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Most of us are one big happy family.

With this pic you are showing your age! I doubt anybody under 40 has a clue as to what it was.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:35 PM
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Hope you don't mind my random thoughts.

1. I have trained altar coaches. I wrote a book about altar coaching which is in the final editing stages. Even though I believe speaking in tongues is important, it is not as important as pentecostals make it out to be. Pentecostals emphasize water immersion and speaking in tongues over the most important thing Christ desires, repentance. Christ taught more about repentance than tongues and baptism. Pentecostals have reduced repentance to asking God to forgive sins so they can get you to speak in tongues. I've seen more people speak in tongues than repent. Jesus knew what was important. He said angels rejoice when one person repents. Pentecostals rejoice when someone speaks in tongues. Pentecostals have it backwards. Need proof? When is the last time your church or your district/organization had a repentance rally? It doesn't happen because one can't always see immediate results of repentance. Repentance is a lifestyle which enables a person to continue to walk in their faith.

2. I understand Randy Wayne's skepticism. It's a shame the hucksters have made it difficult for people to believe the supernatural can occur anywhere. I haven't watch the Cracker Barrel Revival, nor do I plan to. I can't help but think if things were really out of control, management would have stepped in and ask the group to tone it down. If I were in a restaurant and something like that was going on, I would think they were a bunch of foreigners with very pale skin.

3. It's a shame we have extreme pendulum swings. One side believes almost everything that's said and the other side which are skeptical about everything that is said. The best thing to do is test the spirits, and test them all the time. You may miss the one that's legitimate or latch on to the one that's a phone if you don't test the spirits on a case by case basis.

4. HolyFire mentioned TW Barnes supported the Magic Hair Theory because Barnes said the phrase "We heard from the Lord tonight". (paraphrase) I realize HF is checking his sources to make sure the accuracy of the statement. I wouldn't be surprised if the statement was made. If TW Barnes said that, it doesn't mean every word was from the Lord. TWB could have been talking about a certain segment of the sermon where it was evident God's presence began to shift.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:45 PM
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With this pic you are showing your age! I doubt anybody under 40 has a clue as to what it was.
Naw, most do not have any idea. I wish I could animate the picture and show them all wrestling like they did at the end of every episode. LOL
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2. I understand Randy Wayne's skepticism. It's a shame the hucksters have made it difficult for people to believe the supernatural can occur anywhere. I haven't watch the Cracker Barrel Revival, nor do I plan to. I can't help but think if things were really out of control, management would have stepped in and ask the group to tone it down. If I were in a restaurant and something like that was going on, I would think they were a bunch of foreigners with very pale skin.
The issue is is that the absolute worst person to claim that God heals, is someone who regularly saws women in half and then goes "Ta Da!" and restores them to a gasping audience. Who would trust David Copperfield if he suddenly proclaimed himself to be a healer?

And so someone like LS who regularly claims the supernatural miracles of God that surround him while embellishing every little thing that he either hears happen or happens to him is someone I will naturally doubt every thing that comes out of his mouth. In fact so much garbage comes out of his mouth that there is no sense in fact checking everything. One can only assume that is is all embellished to the point of being a fairy tale.
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