The Gap Theory

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by james34

try taking the bible , and without any other book or article prove your doctrine.

I say 24 hrs. for 1 day and all in numerical order , no gap!

you call it my doctrine. its always funny when people dont read the other post, They just post.

I know you dont care much for me, but if you read my post i agree with you..

6 days Good created the heavens and the earth and on the 7th he rested..

[james34]

i didnt mean your doctrine as in creation only, but as in any doctrine that you or any one might believe

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by james34

i didnt mean your doctrine as in creation only, but as in any doctrine that you or any one might believe

ah ok i took it directed at me. im sorry my apology.

[james34]

Originally Posted by acerrak

ah ok i took it directed at me. im sorry my apology.

oh no not a problem actually forgive me ,i could see where it looked that way.

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by james34

try taking the bible , and without any other book or article prove your doctrine.

I say 24 hrs. for 1 day and all in numerical order , no gap!

Originally Posted by acerrak

ah ok i took it directed at me. im sorry my apology.

Act 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
Act 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Here we find an individual that had the Bible but even though he had it he still needed someone to further explain certain passages. Why? Not everything is at it may seem at first read, which is why we are commended to Study, to show ourselves approved...
Having said that, nothing in the creative "days demands them to be a 24 hour period of time solar day.
Day, can and does mean more than just a 24 hour solar day. See Gen 2:4 where it lumps ALL of the creative days/generations into the phrase, "...in THE Day..." (singular) Note: I will be unable to continue this after tomorrow for over a week (7 solar days to be exact in this case) as I will be on a cruise, but will check back.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by acerrak

i still dont think the earth looks old. Im still trying to figure out how they get the millions of years when science states that humans were not around then.

Well, that is the whole gap theory basis. No humans, but millions of years for earth. Gap theory teaches that Genesis 1:2 onward occurred 6000 years ago, but Gen 1:1 is millions of years ago. Hence, a gap between the first two verses.

Check it out:

http://mikeblume.com/renovat1.htm
http://mikeblume.com/renovat2.htm

no dating system is really correct, that has already been proven. and the earth enviroments is ever changing and in rapid pace.

The fact we can only trace History so far back then everything after that gets a blurr should be a eye opening in itself.

This idea is not based upon science, but scripture.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by james34

try taking the bible , and without any other book or article prove your doctrine.

I say 24 hrs. for 1 day and all in numerical order , no gap!

You are not aware of the gap theory,. It teaches a gap between the first two verses of Genesis, not between any of the 7 actual solar days.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Bowas

As far as the "evenings and the morning" portion, that to me is merely showing as one era was fading away, a new one was arriving. We still use similar words such as saying, "He is in his TWILIGHT years" and I am sure there are others. Another thing to consider is, it mentions an "evening and Morning" prior to the sun shining on the 4th day, to know whether it was evening (sun setting) or morning (sun rise)(as we most often use the phrase).

But that is pure assumption, and using metpahors from our culture and inserting them into Genesis which is a Hebrew book. I se no challenge in your words, bro., I just think it is a stretch and an attempt to align the bible with science to say the days were not days. The bible never said they were not anywhere. I am just very careful with how we interpret the bible. We have to have a basis for why we say they are not days, and I see no biblical basis but rather extrabiblical basis.

Once again, my responses was not directed at you, but rather to the content of this article.
I can go with a gap with the reason you have stated here and in times past. But I still believe the creative days were longer than 24 hours as I see no conclusive evidence from the Bible suggesting such. (this is all just my opinions)

The conclusive evidence is like the author of the article I quoted said. BECAUSE of Genesis we have six days of work and then a rest. And as he asked, why that correlation to days if it was originally millions of years? Thanks for your thoughts!

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You are not aware of the gap theory,. It teaches a gap between the first two verses of Genesis, not between any of the 7 actual solar days.

im aware that upon this recent information that futurist are correct in there gap theory assertion of the 69th week in daniel based on the gap theory of like figure in genesis

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by mfblume

But that is pure assumption, and using metpahors from our culture and inserting them into Genesis which is a Hebrew book. I se no challenge in your words, bro., I just think it is a stretch and an attempt to align the bible with science to say the days were not days. The bible never said they were not anywhere. I am just very careful with how we interpret the bible. We have to have a basis for why we say they are not days, and I see no biblical basis but rather extrabiblical basis.



The conclusive evidence is like the author of the article I quoted said. BECAUSE of Genesis we have six days of work and then a rest. And as he asked, why that correlation to days if it was originally millions of years? Thanks for your thoughts!

Gen 2:4 These are "the generations" of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in "the day" (yom)that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

(Ignore the caps as I typed this in another post and
capped" it to separate it from what I was countering.)


Gen 2:4 These are the generations*1 of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day*2 that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

*1 The word "generations" is used in this verse where the word "day" was used in chapter 1, so I cannot see where we can can insist on the narrower definition of the word "day" when the Bible itself does not limit itself, but in fact broadens its definition by using "generations to refer back to the exact same periods of time referred to as "day"
*2 All the creative days (7 of them) are encompassed into the phrase "THE DAY". which is singular, indicating it is referring to the entire creative era.

"YOM" DAY IS NOT ALWAYS REFERRING TO A SINGLE 24 HOUR SOLAR DAY. YES, MOST OFTEN IT IS, BECAUSE IT HAPPENS MORE FREQUENTLY THAN THE LONGER YOM/DAYS. SOME SAY WE ARE IN "MAN'S DAY" NOW AND IT IS LONGER THAN 24 HOURS. DAY HAS A BROADER MEANING THAN LIMITING IT TO A SINGLE 24 HOUR PERIOD OF TIME. PLEASE NOTICE IN THIS VERSE THE WORD "GENERATIONS" HAS BEEN USED INSTEAD OF THE WORD "DAYS" AS WAS USED IN CHAPTER 1 IN REFERRING TO THE CREATIVE PERIODS OF TIME, SO THE INSISTANCE OF A CREATIVE PERIOD MUST BE A 24 HOUR SOLAR DAY IS QUESTIONABLE. NOTICE TOO, THE COMPLETE CREATIVE PROCESS OF 7 DAYS IS NOW CONDENSED INTO A SINGLE UNIT CALLED "THE DAY". ALL 7 "DAYS" ARE NOW NOT ONLY CALLED "GENERATIONS" BUT THEY ARE TOTALLY JUST CALLED "THE DAY".

Questions:
1.) What are "generations" as used in this verse?
2.) What is "THE day" used in this verse?

As mentioned last night in my post, I will be gone for a week (not a prophetic week of 7 years) but a I will be gone in the narrower and most common definition of the word week and be gone 7 solar days, not a creative day, otherwise it could be a real long time before I return.