James Kilgore's Part in the 92 Affirmation Debacle

[POWERUP]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

Thanks for telling me and I'm sorry to hear that. We've lost a lot of good men of God in recent years. He would be one of them.

Did you ever preach for him? He was truly a great man. While I was speaking
at his service, I spoke of one of his greatest character traits was that he could disagree with you, and still not offend you.Most folks just cant seem to do that............

A couple of months before he passed we talked about some stuff...You
know what I mean...I was a associate pastor there for over 15 yrs.. so
I felt like we needed to talk about some of the Stuff I had been taught.

We had a great time discussing some of the issues. He didnt completly agree, but we had
a good time talking about the way it's always been.

The one thing about PaPa was that he was Consistent!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another trait that we lack in alot.....

[rgcraig]

I like the word debacle

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Chateau d'If

I sometimes believe we may have overestimated the numeric impact of the Westberg resolution.

Not everything can be measured simply by the numbers.

[houston]

That's wot she said.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by houston

That's wot she said.

[notofworks]

pelathais, could you tell more of what James Kilgore said that swayed you, your pastor, and others? I know you mentioned the 99% thing, but was there more than that statement that was moving to the point it changed a lot of minds?

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by notofworks

pelathais, could you tell more of what James Kilgore said that swayed you, your pastor, and others? I know you mentioned the 99% thing, but was there more than that statement that was moving to the point it changed a lot of minds?

Good question!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by notofworks

pelathais, could you tell more of what James Kilgore said that swayed you, your pastor, and others? I know you mentioned the 99% thing, but was there more than that statement that was moving to the point it changed a lot of minds?

It was more of a "group think" thing. Human beings can in fact be herded and manipulated. If a couple dozen people had suddenly jumped up and shouted "fire" and ran screaming for the exit, they would have been followed by hundreds of others. We're all "sheeple" in some sense.

Nothing was said that made me rationally change my mind. I was leery of what LW and PP had both said (LW was a distant family relation of mine). While PP enjoyed some measure of respect, the whole "California Thing" with all of the nasty divisiveness out there just made me uneasy about the whole thing.

My pastor stood because JK had spoken for the resolution. I was sort of sucked and pulled up by some sort of anti-gravitational vortex thing as soon as he started to rise.

DR and the brothers who came into the meeting shouting, "Question!" obviously knew how our particular herd acts. All it would take was the voice of someone like JK or JW speaking in favor of the resolution and it would pass. I know now that is why they were so insistent that a vote be taken immediately. The fellowship had already been debating and discussing the thing for almost 2 years.

[FaithPreacher]

I think the Westberg resolution was demoniacally inspired. In fact a lot of the political maneuvering that takes place in ecclesiastical circles gains its' inspiration from below. All it takes to work is some ignorant bumpkin coming along and being the instrument the devil can use.

[ReformedDave]

"Demonically inspired"? like the Scriptures are "God inspired" or do you mean just a bad mistake?