Christian hostages murdered by Somali Pirates

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Anton Lavey?

The Pittsburgh Steelers corner backs?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I think "some here" would just tend to not be as harsh in their criticisms of the RCC practices as you have been. There are many good Catholic arguments that would show that the practices of that church which you proscribed do not allow idolatry in any event.

See for example: http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/qui...yword/idolatry

Of course, what it all comes down to is the intentions and conditions of the individual's heart. That is what we will all be called to account for in the end.

God was pretty harsh towards idolatry. I grew up catholic so it's notm against people but the religion itself.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by pelathais

The Pittsburgh Steelers corner backs?

That's just creepy if thats really their names.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

God was pretty harsh towards idolatry. I grew up catholic so it's notm against people but the religion itself.

Oh.... then by all means fire away at the Catholics! It's your right for coming out of them!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

There isn't a nation over there-- which is all the more reason for us to do something substantial to change that problem.

Why should we do something about it? Because Americans were killed-- while we were NEGOTIATING with them nonetheless!

YES President Obama stands criticism for this FAILURE of EPIC proportions! It happened on his watch. Furthermore, this isn't the first time that Americans have been captured by these pirates.

OUR PRESIDENT NEEDS TO LEAD!


This IS a Chrsitian response.

I am a Christian and this is my response.


We pray for the souls of the dead.
We pray and attempt to comfort the hearts of their living loved ones and in honor of the senseless MURDERS of our AMERICAN citizens, we go!

We go to those waters were our brothers and sisters were killed and we clean house.

Plainly speaking, we go there and we kill the pirates that fight us in our efforts to bring lawfulness and peace to that region.

Christianity does allow for killing of other people.
This is one of those occasions where a military response is not just necessary, but indeed it has been INVITED by the actions of the pirates that had the GUMPTION to KILL our citizens while our MILITARY was attempting to NEGOTIATE PEACEFULLY!


The Somali pirates in that region have asked for it.

We need to bring it and do so speedily!

From the Halls of Montezuma,
To the shores of Tripoli;
We fight our country's battles
In the air, on land, and sea;.....

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by pelathais

You are right. At least I think you are right.

The "state" is given a "sword" by God and the state does not bear this sword "in vain." A case can be made for a just war. It may not always be persuasive in every circumstance, but the case can be made.



I don't "want" to use the UN - but we do give them billions of dollars a year - much of it for "peacekeeping." How about we get our money's worth? NATO would be a more reliable source. The most reliable? Well, doing the job ourselves. Maybe we could bill the UN for our peacekeeping?



I agree.

Romans 13:1-7; Ecclesiastes 3:3.

Of course, there are some great discussions worth having on those listed scriptures above.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Catholicism is doctrinally false and those who practice this, practice a religion that is patently against the Bible.

Catholicism is a false doctrine.


It's ok to call wrong wrong.

It certainly is. And there are some false teachings IMO, but to the point of idolatrous? Not sure I can say so... and FTR, there's been many people who were supposedly Catholic, that doesn't mean they were well-trained in catechism, etc and had a good understanding of the faith.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Catholicism is doctrinally false and those who practice this, practice a religion that is patently against the Bible.

Catholicism is a false doctrine.


It's ok to call wrong wrong.

What makes you better? Nothing worse than the idolatry of arrogance.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Is there anyone not saved?

You tell me? What makes you saved and others not?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

You tell me? What makes you saved and others not?

Nope, you answer the question first.