Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI, Garner Next???

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

And a compromiser with a hairy charismatic cherry on top

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[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Charnock

The latest Forward lists 63 newly licensed ministers.

Unfortunately, it also lists 16 ministers as deceased, and 79 ministers who have written to drop their license.

THIS LIST DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY MINISTERS WHO HAVE LET THEIR DUES LAPSE.

63 added.
95 dropped.
And this does not include those who leave quietly, by not paying their dues. Many men leave this way because they do not want their name published in the "No Longer Affiliated" section.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Hypocrisy.
Politics.
False doctrine.
Legalism.
Hatefulness.
Religious Pride.

I don't like these either.
I think you can find these in any religious organization.
And if we are truthful, we can find these, sometimes, when we look in the mirror.
Truth be told, I've found these more in GIB's than in the organizations.

[Dagwood]

Originally Posted by Sabby

Praise GOD for this word, brother.

Deacon Blues' steel sharpens my steel, for sure!

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

From a Biblical standpoint, is this correct? I'm not at home to do any research, but it seems like all of the religious groups were at fault. I know we like to target the Pharisees, but seems like the other groups were just as much as fault as well.

Well, I feel like the point he was making was that the Pharisees juxtaposed to Jesus created a contrast. The Pharisees were supposed to represent the way to God as leaders of Judaism. Jesus became the way to God.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by The Lemon

Well...I was actually alluding to MJ on one of my posts this morning. That being two prominent pastors in the state next to me (Deleware) had pulled out. I'm not into name dropping...but since the cat is out of the bag...Anthony Trout was on that list as well and his church is huge in Dover, and his dad is huge in the Delaware district.

I both know and have heard MJ preach, he is amazing and not only zealous for God but has a tremendous passion for people. I have not heard him for awhile now, but I would imagine him being the same way.

From what I see, they are loosing younger preachers like a cut jugular. The sad part is I don't believe it has to be this way.

There will always be a UPC I think. There will be enough young men and women to fuel the future. Perhaps they will stagnate in growth, perhaps its already here. I really don't know the raw numbers. A General Board member told me several years ago the preachers under the age of 30 numbered less than 600. The peak for the UPC was probably the 70s and 80s.

[brianmidwest]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Maybe they (those dropping out of the UPC) will form a loose alliance, then Keith will have a place to belong.

We do have a place to belong. It's called the church. Any of the rest is extra at best, hinderance at worst. Very sad.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Yep! He made a fool out of me one day.....moving around dots on a card! I suddenly thought I had it figured out and he acted like I had and then made a fool out of me in front of everyone! So come to think about it.... he was a smartaleck even then! lol

BT

He was here in the big city preaching Times of Refreshing...I called it times of depressing or oppressing...but I digress...and folks made excuses that he had a late flight yada yada yada, but there he was using all those funny little enduring phrases like "idiots who let faggots in the White House..." amen.

[Carpenter]

Hey...the youngsters love all the emotional belonging stuff, change happens when they mature and begin to realize that real life isn't a pew jumping exhausting parade... When the UPC sucks the idealism out of folks, they are more than willing to bolt.

[brianmidwest]

When an organization's main purpose becomes growing the organization, it will eventually see it's end.

We need a leadership points to the Savior, not a HQ.