How the TSA shakes down a fully armed squad

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Also... Aquila... you keep saying... you don't have to fly... that's your right.

Apparently not because the guy that refused to be groped the other day and then chose his "right" to travel another way is having an $11,000 fine assessed against him for exercising that right even after TSA goons told him the same thing you are saying.

Perfect example of ignorance. They make a false dicotomy. Fly with molestation or not fly. The 3rd option is fly without sexual harassment.

We are arguing with gubment drone mentalities. Into a power trip.
The guy that complained has the right to leave the airport and not be chased after with a threat of fines for walking.

Some good lawyer will have a payday on threatening people with fines.

So now the false dicotomy is fly and get molested or walk to your car and get fined for $11,000 dollars and not fly. One of the law firms in my office building had 200 lawyers. They relocated a couple years ago to another office park. If they wanted, they could have a heydey with this in class action suits. A lot of the gubment damage settlements punitive damages would come from the treats and insults out of the mouths of the TSA and related workers.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Ferd

so long as everyone else on that road gets pulled over... apparantly yes.

But, I can't have my car searched without a warrant as long as I'm abiding by the law and not everyone else is being pulled over?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by sandie

But, I can't have my car searched without a warrant as long as I'm abiding by the law and not everyone else is being pulled over?

if you are just driving and a cop decides to pull you over he had better have some probable cause.

cops can invent probable cause... they do have to provide their reasoning.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Ferd

if you are just driving and a cop decides to pull you over he had better have some probable cause.

cops can invent probable cause... they do have to provide their reasoning.

So then my point that driving may indeed be a privilage just like flying, but my car can't be searched without probable cause, is valid at least to some extent?

What then is the probabe cause for TSA to scan and do pat down searches?
Shouldn't we be aware of what those are?

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'd like to know the details of the case in question.

Below are parts 1-4 of the video John Tyner took. The TSA has said that they plan on filing a civil law suit and fining John for either $10k or $11k.

John has lawyers lined up to do the case pro bono. He will fight it if TSA actual files the suits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23g0hobOLRE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm-MvbfVPME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEOM-9g73fM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ds5t7E1eXE

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The TSA has very high standards. The nature of their job requires that they be a bit intrusive. Security directives also govern their actions. A gross violation could result in dismissal or leave without pay. Each situation has to be looked at individually.

The list of minimum requirements is required under the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, which became law in November. Screeners must be U.S. citizens, possess a high school diploma or the equivalent, pass a criminal background check and be proficient in English.

Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and other unskilled jobs do better.

[Aquila]

Since we're on the topic, and this is my professional realm, I have to share this.

I processed a guy working for an airport vendor yesterday. Part of the process requires that he be issued creds to park in a secured area on the airport. Well, his application didn't include a license plate number. That bit of information is required so I had to deny him access. I told him, "If you can bring me the license plate tomorrow, I can issue the access to park in the secured area." Well, today the guy walks into my office actually holding his license plate! lol

[sandie]

I'm glad he has lawyers to do it pro bono.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and other unskilled jobs do better.

Pizza Hut and Taco Bell come nowhere close. Stand up and deliver Coadie. I do this for a living. You said it, now demonstrate that you know what you're talking about.

[coadie]

[QUOTE=Digging4Truth;990526]Below are parts 1-4 of the video John Tyner took. The TSA has said that they plan on filing a civil law suit and fining John for either $10k or $11k.

John has lawyers lined up to do the case pro bono. He will fight it if TSA actual files the suits.


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