Burning the Koran

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I love that there are the O'Reillys in the world to form opinions for those who cannot educate and inform themselves. Then the uninformed can form and pass on the opinion without ever leaving the comfort of their home LOL

You are looking past what is actually on the table, Walks. You said yourself, in an earlier post, that the needs to back down.

Here's what else he said, "If I knew this would happen, this would cause this kind of pain, I wouldn't have done it," he said, without specifying whether he would have changed the location."

Uh, Rauf, you haven't started construction yet and are not supposed to have full funding, so don't build it! Duh!!!

What a sorry excuse for doing what he wants to do and using all of these other issues as a smoke screen.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Blast it all! NO! I won't take the chill pill!!! LOL!

Petraeus didn't say it in the same way and he has nothing to do with trying to build a mosque at Ground Zero while trying to say that we are not adhering to religious tolerance - while - there are 100 mosques in NY showing that there is religious tolerance. Was that a run-on sentence? LOL!

Imam Rauf is doing this as a total provocation. He needs to back away and prove, for once if he can, that Islam is a religion of tolerance and peace.

I like what O'Reilly said, "It's long past time for the Muslim world to show a little respect and tolerance for America."

http://www.billoreilly.com/video?cha...49596159275251

I just think it would be great for you to tell us why you think General Petraeus hates us and is threatening us like Imam Rauf is.

General Petraeus and Imam Rauf both said that if a particular thing were to happen, Americans might be in danger. Why is one a threat but the other is simply a warning?

This wasn't a national issue until this year, until the mid-term elections rolled around. The politicians are playing off of fear from people like you to get extra votes. As soon as the election is over, this issue will go back to a footnote like it was before.

I enjoyed the interview of Imam Rauf. I am glad he is standing up for his American rights and not letting extremists and religious bigots push him around. America needs more people like him.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I just think it would be great for you to tell us why you think General Petraeus hates us and is threatening us like Imam Rauf is.

General Petraeus and Imam Rauf both said that if a particular thing were to happen, Americans might be in danger. Why is one a threat but the other is simply a warning?

This wasn't a national issue until this year, until the mid-term elections rolled around. The politicians are playing off of fear from people like you to get extra votes. As soon as the election is over, this issue will go back to a footnote like it was before.

I enjoyed the interview of Imam Rauf. I am glad he is standing up for his American rights and not letting extremists and religious bigots push him around. America needs more people like him.

This post explains the difference to me between Rauf and Petraeus.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...4&postcount=81

It's a total smoke screen, Twisp and I'm not staying on line for another hour going back and forth on this with you. LOL!

[Pressing-On]

Walks,
Are you in support of Sharia Law?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Pressing-On,

I am on record in the mosque building thread on the issue of that ill-advised mosque. I still want to do some shopping this week with my wife and daughter without looking over my shoulder because some corn-pone went out of his way to deliberately offend people who otherwise would be peacefully going about their day. Do the necessary at home on the mosque. Burning Qurans offends ALL Muslims including the Muslims who had nothing, zilch to do with that NY mosque.

I missed this post. I did know you were on board as not being in favor of the mosque being built. It is pushing forward regardless and you can blame the pastor in Florida if you want, but the whole issue started when Iman Rauf didn't give a hoot what America thought about it. It was a total fabrication, lie and distraction to blame it on religious intolerance when we know there are 100 mosques in NYC. I am sick of the obfuscating.

I think Ann Coulter put the thing in better perspective when she wrote:

In response to Gen David Petraeus' denunciation of Florida pastor Terry Jones' right to engage in a symbolic protest of the 9/11 attacks by burning copies of the Quran this Sept. 11, President Obama said: "Let me be clear: As a citizen, and as president, I believe that members of the Dove World Outreach Center have the same right to freedom of speech and religion as anyone else in this country."

Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida lauded Obama's remarks, saying America is "a place where you're supposed to be able to practice your religion without the government telling you you can't."

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg called Obama's words a "clarion defense of the freedom of religion" -- and also claimed that he had recently run into a filthy jihadist who actually supported the Quran-burning!

Keith Olbermann read the poem "First they came ..." on air in defense of the Quran-burners, nearly bringing himself to tears at his own profundity.

No wait, my mistake. This is what liberals said about the ground zero mosque only five minutes ago when they were posing as First Amendment absolutists. Suddenly, they've developed amnesia when it comes to the free-speech right to burn a Quran.
http://www.anncoulter.com/

Point, score - thank you Ann!

[Walks_in_islam]

This is a trick question.

I am in support of the Quran and the teachings as spelled out in the original Hadiths.

There are many aspects of "Sharia Law" that do not fall under these teachings.

There are too many to mention on here.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Walks,
Are you in support of Sharia Law?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

This is a trick question.

I am in support of the Quran and the teachings as spelled out in the original Hadiths.

There are many aspects of "Sharia Law" that do not fall under these teachings.

There are too many to mention on here.

LOL! Thanks for your response.

[Walks_in_islam]

This guy is starting to look more and more like a real winner:

Ex church-members describe 12-14 hour workdays for no pay except room and board on church property which consists of low-income housing bought up by Jones in Gainesville neighborhoods that have seen better days. The Engels, a couple that emigrated from the Jones’ Cologne, said that for more than a year, they lived in an apartment in Pineridge in northwest Gainesville with their two young sons and worked more than 40 hours a week unpaid. The Engels said they didn’t pay rent for their apartment and that all their meals were provided by the church’s Lisa Jones House, which the church describes as an “outreach to the poor” that uses food from the local food bank. I guess if you’re a church member with no income, you qualify.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

What is this, a flippin' threat?!!! Trying to make us cower in fear?

Bring it, buddy!

Good grief and people have confidence and believe this man is honest and sincere in what he is about? Give me a break!

This leads me to another issue...Aren't we saying we are afraid of Muslim extremists?

But the Muslim extremists are already extremists. Anything sets them off. So we have to walk on egg shells because of a few backwards folks that are easily manipulated for political/religious gain?

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

This post explains the difference to me between Rauf and Petraeus.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...4&postcount=81

It's a total smoke screen, Twisp and I'm not staying on line for another hour going back and forth on this with you. LOL!

That doesn't explain why you think Imam Rauf threatened us when General Petraeus said something very similar. The fact is that both men said, if this happens, Americans could be in danger. Neither man threatened America, but simply stated a fact.

That post is just another one of your "He is an extremest even though there is no proof and there is something else going on here!"

Even if no building has started yet, the project has already started. Imam Raud cannot stop the project now without looking like is giving into religious bigotry and Christian extremism.