Why am I labeled backslid and unusable by God

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Perhaps I am.

Speaking evil? I'm speaking TRUTH!!!!!

To view these issues as salvific is the same as Judaizers. Let's look at some of Paul's choice words for Judaizers.

This is absolutely ridiculous for a church to treat others like this. It's unChristian! And for Ferd to get on here and blast this guy, along with yours and others hearty amens, is disgusting.

sometimes the truth isnt pretty Jeffery.

The fact is, I am more likely to agree with Nineteentwentytwoeightyone now than I would be to agree with the cons he is leaving....

but you dont get all huffy with the folks you walk away from for being upset you left.

[TheLegalist]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Compromise of what? The Gospel? If so, that goes beyond preference, and sharing space with Judaizers. If compromise over their own traditions, then sure. They'd see it like that.

This man and his family have their souls being prayed for?

Well what do you expect? He has crossed the line possibly. Would you not PRAY for someone if you thought so? HOW COULD THEY THINK SUCH! PRay for someone you think is going the wrong direction? OH MY GOODNESS!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Knowledge and existentially confronting it are not the same.

Why the exasperation, Ferd?

because people that dont own their own actions exasperates me.


and when someone shows up on this forum and takes shots at the other side (when those shots arent legit) it really exasperates me

and when someone claims to have been in leadership in a Conservative church then cliams they are "shocked" at the reaction of the Cons they left behind, little read lights start flashing "warning! warning! warning!"

I really have a terrible problem Jeffery.... I think people should own their own actions... I do...

[RandyWayne]

When we left our church we experienced much of the same. It is just important to remember that your true good friends will remain good friends. Those who do the most back biting and do the most accusing were never your friend to begin with, so who cares what they think? These are the ones who will make complete idiots of themselves by crossing the street when they see you coming in order to show the world that you are officially being shunned. Honestly, one can have great fun with these people!

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Ferd

sometimes the truth isnt pretty Jeffery.

The fact is, I am more likely to agree with Nineteentwentytwoeightyone now than I would be to agree with the cons he is leaving....

but you dont get all huffy with the folks you walk away from for being upset you left.

???? Says who? He has no right to experience emotions when feeling rejected over trivial matters?

Seriously scratching my head with you guys today.

[Ferd]

Lets clear this up a bit….

If the OP had said:
I started going to this church that had really strong standards. I decided I didn’t like that and found another moderate church to go to and I am shocked that the cons have reacted like I’m backslid.

My reply would have been “don’t worry about them, move ahead and find the place in God that you are comfortable with”

BUT

The OP said “I have long had leadership positions in my Conservative church”

You people don’t see the difference here? Leaders understand the nature of the people they lead.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by TheLegalist

Well what do you expect? He has crossed the line possibly. Would you not PRAY for someone if you thought so? HOW COULD THEY THINK SUCH! PRay for someone you think is going the wrong direction? OH MY GOODNESS!

Pray. That's cute.

No provision of empathy here for the emotion of a family enduring this sort of rejection.


The issue he is shocked over is that they "thought so." And it is shocking. Utterly shocking. There's plenty on this forum that have gone through the same ......... To hear these slaps at him, cute replies back about shutting up and praying is asinine.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Ferd

because people that dont own their own actions exasperates me.


and when someone shows up on this forum and takes shots at the other side (when those shots arent legit) it really exasperates me

and when someone claims to have been in leadership in a Conservative church then cliams they are "shocked" at the reaction of the Cons they left behind, little read lights start flashing "warning! warning! warning!"

I really have a terrible problem Jeffery.... I think people should own their own actions... I do...

Have you no mercy?

Owning to his actions? Explain. Let's hypothetically say you aren't a cynic with the guy and you actually believe him. He's been in this church since knee high to a grass hopper. He becomes a "leader" (could be Sunday School teacher, youth leader -- anything). He realizes some things don't add up and he leaves. He's been part of this culture his entire life but only now is on the receiving end of pure ungodliness. He is shocked.

You come along and yell at his to "own up?"

Lovely.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

???? Says who? He has no right to experience emotions when feeling rejected over trivial matters?

Seriously scratching my head with you guys today.

no.... not really.

especially when he is the one doing the rejecting.

seriously Jeffery you need to tuffen up.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

When we left our church we experienced much of the same. It is just important to remember that your true good friends will remain good friends. Those who do the most back biting and do the most accusing were never your friend to begin with, so who cares what they think? These are the ones who will make complete idiots of themselves by crossing the street when they see you coming in order to show the world that you are officially being shunned. Honestly, one can have great fun with these people!

Except for your last sentence (haha)... THUMBS UP.