Universal Health Insurance & Abortion:

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Un insured motorist coverage is mandated in my state.
You were wrong. Car insurance and mdical insurance are the same types of insurance. Both use actuaries and tables for risks and claims. Fortunately I am very familiar with how insurance companies work. I can audit their annual reports.
Are you a CPA?

I served as a government Account Reconciler for 5 years. And I can tell you... the loss incured to the auto-repair industry isn't passed down to all motorists as with medicine.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Amen. Tort reform is a different subject but desperately needed. They are looking at how France works in regards to regional health care boards that decide cases and seeing what might be legal and valuable for the American public.

France?
Socialized medicine?
Name a single significant medical breakthrough from France in the last 30 years. Just one. I know the answer.
I don't want healthcare like France.
Don't waste my time with some propoganda. France is far behind the times as are the other southern euro nations. So primitive in facilities.
I get my viewpoint from docs and not tourists.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Exactly what are my premiums? Give me some numbers. Family coverage.

On my plan? You're premium would be $40 a month. You'd be given $3,000 a year in an HSA for a $4,000 high deductible plan. Meaning you'd pay at MOST $1,480 a year for your policy IF your healthcare expenses exceeded $4,000 a year total. That equates to an average of $123 a month, again, only if you exceeded the deductible contribution.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I served as a government Account Reconciler for 5 years. And I can tell you... the loss incured to the auto-repair industry isn't passed down to all motorists as with medicine.

Then what were you thinking about your line regarding uninsured mortorist coverage? I kinda caught you missing the mark on that one.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Name the bill. Fact check time.

I realize your friends recently supported a war funding bill because it had the pedophile protection act attached. S 1390

Coadie, I'd have to review it myself.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

France?
Socialized medicine?
Name a single significant medical breakthrough from France in the last 30 years. Just one. I know the answer.
I don't want healthcare like France.
Don't waste my time with some propoganda. France is far behind the times as are the other southern euro nations. So primitive in facilities.
I get my viewpoint from docs and not tourists.

Coadie,

The World Health Organization's ranking
of the world's health systems.
Source: WHO World Health Report - See also Spreadsheet Details (731kb)

The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the task.

See also: Healthy Life Expectancy By Country
See also: Health Performance Rank By Country
See also: Total Health Expenditure as % of GDP (2000-2005)
See also: Main Country Ranks Page
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Rank Country

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei
41 New Zealand
42 Bahrain
43 Croatia
44 Qatar
45 Kuwait
46 Barbados
47 Thailand
48 Czech Republic
49 Malaysia
50 Poland
51 Dominican Republic
52 Tunisia
53 Jamaica
54 Venezuela
55 Albania
56 Seychelles
57 Paraguay
58 South Korea
59 Senegal
60 Philippines
61 Mexico
62 Slovakia
63 Egypt
64 Kazakhstan
65 Uruguay
66 Hungary
67 Trinidad and Tobago
68 Saint Lucia
69 Belize
70 Turkey
71 Nicaragua
72 Belarus
73 Lithuania
74 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
75 Argentina
76 Sri Lanka
77 Estonia
78 Guatemala
79 Ukraine
80 Solomon Islands
81 Algeria
82 Palau
83 Jordan
84 Mauritius
85 Grenada
86 Antigua and Barbuda
87 Libya
88 Bangladesh
89 Macedonia
90 Bosnia-Herzegovina
91 Lebanon
92 Indonesia
93 Iran
94 Bahamas
95 Panama
96 Fiji
97 Benin
98 Nauru
99 Romania
100 Saint Kitts and Nevis
101 Moldova
102 Bulgaria
103 Iraq
104 Armenia
105 Latvia
106 Yugoslavia
107 Cook Islands
108 Syria
109 Azerbaijan
110 Suriname
111 Ecuador
112 India
113 Cape Verde
114 Georgia
115 El Salvador
116 Tonga
117 Uzbekistan
118 Comoros
119 Samoa
120 Yemen
121 Niue
122 Pakistan
123 Micronesia
124 Bhutan
125 Brazil
126 Bolivia
127 Vanuatu
128 Guyana
129 Peru
130 Russia
131 Honduras
132 Burkina Faso
133 Sao Tome and Principe
134 Sudan
135 Ghana
136 Tuvalu
137 Ivory Coast
138 Haiti
139 Gabon
140 Kenya
141 Marshall Islands
142 Kiribati
143 Burundi
144 China
145 Mongolia
146 Gambia
147 Maldives
148 Papua New Guinea
149 Uganda
150 Nepal
151 Kyrgystan
152 Togo
153 Turkmenistan
154 Tajikistan
155 Zimbabwe
156 Tanzania
157 Djibouti
158 Eritrea
159 Madagascar
160 Vietnam
161 Guinea
162 Mauritania
163 Mali
164 Cameroon
165 Laos
166 Congo
167 North Korea
168 Namibia
169 Botswana
170 Niger
171 Equatorial Guinea
172 Rwanda
173 Afghanistan
174 Cambodia
175 South Africa
176 Guinea-Bissau
177 Swaziland
178 Chad
179 Somalia
180 Ethiopia
181 Angola
182 Zambia
183 Lesotho
184 Mozambique
185 Malawi
186 Liberia
187 Nigeria
188 Democratic Republic of the Congo
189 Central African Republic
190 Myanmar

It doesn't help if they make a break through and most Americans can't afford it.

http://www.welt.de/english-news/arti...cientists.html

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Liar, liar. LOL Get the facts. That can't happen. It's merely government subsidization of private plans negotiated for the American people through a private health insurance company.

They do indeed have you brain washed. I don't appreciate being called a liar. Coadie has posted the link where Obama and the CA politican both admit they want to get rid of the private insurance company. Their goal is government health care only.

But I don't want to bust your bubble so believe what you want I have no desire to convince you. The information is there.

[coadie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTYvK...layer_embedded

This congress person admits to abortion coverage in the Obama scare plans.

[coadie]

[QUOTE=Aquila;787281]Coadie,
[INDENT]The World Health Organization's ranking
of the world's health systems.
Source: WHO World Health Report - See also Spreadsheet Details (731kb)

The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the task.

See also: Healthy Life Expectancy By Country
See also: Health Performance Rank By Country
See also: Total Health Expenditure as % of GDP (2000-2005) See also: Main Country Ranks Page

This is information for idiots. Afghanistan has a GDP of 489 dollars and if all that is equal to healthcare expenditure, then they get a high rank.

WHO is not a medical enterprise. They are a political mess.

France. that says it all. France is a place to stay away from and they get a high ranking.

Uneducatated rubes like yourself have no concept in experimental design and how to test. Health care rank is about like ranking weather. There are so incredibly many procedures most regional hospitals in the U.s. do and maybe only one or two in france can. They are 30 years behind but ranked number 1??

How much is spent on medical research in France annually?

If they are so hot, why is their average hospital stay so long? If people are well served, they get dismissed.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

On my plan? You're premium would be $40 a month. You'd be given $3,000 a year in an HSA for a $4,000 high deductible plan. Meaning you'd pay at MOST $1,480 a year for your policy IF your healthcare expenses exceeded $4,000 a year total. That equates to an average of $123 a month, again, only if you exceeded the deductible contribution.

Bad answer. You said your insurance was less money than I pay. I asked you how much I pay. Your answer is NOT what i pay. do you always make statements before gathering information?

You do not know what I pay!!!