Can Women Pastor ?

[Whoop Harted]

Originally Posted by easter

This is rather hateful...for us that remember the little old spiritual women in the Church House If your married she needs to bop you too

Oh please, hateful? I think not! That was not hateful but was a reply in the same joking spirit that she offered. Thus the

[Whoop Harted]

Originally Posted by rava61

OK - here's the problem I see with this: the Bible (Paul) says, "Let the Bishop (pastor) be the husband of one wife". Kind of difficult for a woman to be a 'husband', and also excludes those ministries that have and are involved in multiple marriages (which seems to be ok now).

Preach on Bro, preach on!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by rava61

OK - here's the problem I see with this: the Bible (Paul) says, "Let the Bishop (pastor) be the husband of one wife". Kind of difficult for a woman to be a 'husband', and also excludes those ministries that have and are involved in multiple marriages (which seems to be ok now).

The scripture quoted is 1 Timothy 3:2 where it says a bishop/elder must be "the husband of one wife". Some have taken that to mean that a bishop/elder must be a married man, being single, or widowed, or divorced would disqualify him for ministry. Others take that to mean he could not be polygamous. Others have taken that to mean he could not be divorced and remarried.

That chapter also gives the requirements for deacons. Verse 12 says that deacons are to be the husband of one wife. Yet in Romans 16:1 the Apostle Paul (same person who wrote 1 Timothy) calls Phebe or Phoebe a servant/deacon/minister of the church in Cenchrea and instructs the congregation in Rome to receive her and assist her in whatever business she needs help with. This shows that a woman can (1) be a minister/deacon/servant and (2) can be involved in the business aspect of a church.

Even though Paul had said that an elder/bishop and a deacon/servant/minister should be the husband of one wife he had no problem commending Phoebe as a minister/deacon/servant. So if a woman can be a deacon/servant/minister with the requirement that she be "the husband of one wife" why couldn't a woman be a bishop/elder with the requirement that she be "the husband of one wife"? Maybe that requirement is generic and is just a prohibition against polygamy?

[easter]

Originally Posted by Whoop Harted

Been run by women? Lord help us! By your own admission you have a Jezebel Church that probably mirrors the one in Rev.

Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Rev 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
Rev 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

Oh please don't get so dramatic.I hardly think little Church of God women qualify for a Jezebel Church

[easter]

I believe ole Scott has high tailed it

[easter]

Originally Posted by Whoop Harted

Oh please, hateful? I think not! That was not hateful but was a reply in the same joking spirit that she offered. Thus the

well your wife still needs to knock you up side your head

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Sam

The scripture quoted is 1 Timothy 3:2 where it says a bishop/elder must be "the husband of one wife". Some have taken that to mean that a bishop/elder must be a married man, being single, or widowed, or divorced would disqualify him for ministry. Others take that to mean he could not be polygamous. Others have taken that to mean he could not be divorced and remarried.

That chapter also gives the requirements for deacons. Verse 12 says that deacons are to be the husband of one wife. Yet in Romans 16:1 the Apostle Paul (same person who wrote 1 Timothy) calls Phebe or Phoebe a servant/deacon/minister of the church in Cenchrea and instructs the congregation in Rome to receive her and assist her in whatever business she needs help with. This shows that a woman can (1) be a minister/deacon/servant and (2) can be involved in the business aspect of a church.

Even though Paul had said that an elder/bishop and a deacon/servant/minister should be the husband of one wife he had no problem commending Phoebe as a minister/deacon/servant. So if a woman can be a deacon/servant/minister with the requirement that she be "the husband of one wife" why couldn't a woman be a bishop/elder with the requirement that she be "the husband of one wife"? Maybe that requirement is generic and is just a prohibition against polygamy?

Here is what Clark commmentary has to say on this passage.

Phoebe is here termed a servant, διακονον, a deaconess of the Church at Cenchrea. There were deaconesses in the primitive Church, whose business it was to attend the female converts at baptism; to instruct the catechumens, or persons who were candidates for baptism; to visit the sick, and those who were in prison, and, in short, perform those religious offices for the female part of the Church which could not with propriety be performed by men. They were chosen in general out of the most experienced of the Church, and were ordinarily widows, who had borne children. Some ancient constitutions required them to be forty, others fifty, and others sixty years of age. It is

[Whoop Harted]

Originally Posted by easter

Oh please don't get so dramatic.I hardly think little Church of God women qualify for a Jezebel Church

Dramatic? You're the one that said it was run by women! Sounds like a Jezzie church to me!!

The best thing that could happen there would be for a MAN to walk in there and preach deliverance from the Jezebel spirit, cast the devils out of those women, them get the Holy Ghost and submit to their husbands!

The you would have a Scriptural church where men are in charge, not women!

[Whoop Harted]

Originally Posted by easter

well your wife still needs to knock you up side your head

Easter, (Which by the way is entirely pagan)

What you need is for your husband to , teach you some manners of how to talk to a man (with respect and humility) and learn your place in life,(not behind a pulpit)!

[easter]

Originally Posted by Whoop Harted

Easter, (Which by the way is entirely pagan)

What you need is for your husband to , teach you some manners of how to talk to a man (with respect and humility) and learn your place in life,(not behind a pulpit)!