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06-29-2009, 01:21 AM
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
Ah..is that what they are callin 'em these days?
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06-29-2009, 01:25 AM
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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They stated nothing exposed below the collarbone. I think that's unnecessary and as long as cleavage is not exposed, it is okay. Do you need any further clarification? 
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I understand what you were saying.  Just playing devils advocate.
I've always wondered why "cleavage" is considered taboo. We just came back from Jamaica (a very entertaining and relaxing week I may add!) and sometimes wished that some women ONLY showed cleavage. LOL
But it shows that one persons idea of what is "too much" is vastly different then another guys. My own PERSONAL mental ruler says that a LITTLE cleavage is ok (based on person and bust size) but more than a "little" is "too much". Sound subjective? It is, and always changing! One simply cannot make hard and fast rules on such things.
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06-29-2009, 11:57 AM
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
Its interesting some folks consider this a attack thread, i just simply was curious as if folks would do something similar in their own assembly.
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06-29-2009, 02:02 PM
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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Mmmm... I didn't need anyone to speak on my behalf.
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agree
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06-29-2009, 02:08 PM
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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Um, yes. As long as everything's covered, I think I'm okay. 
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their opinion is the same. they just seem to think it best to make a line of demarcation, ie.. the collarbone.
i have no problem with it being lowered but there are some that it could be a stumbling block for, I suppose.
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06-29-2009, 04:29 PM
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
I understand what you were saying.  Just playing devils advocate.
I've always wondered why "cleavage" is considered taboo. We just came back from Jamaica (a very entertaining and relaxing week I may add!) and sometimes wished that some women ONLY showed cleavage. LOL
But it shows that one persons idea of what is "too much" is vastly different then another guys. My own PERSONAL mental ruler says that a LITTLE cleavage is ok (based on person and bust size) but more than a "little" is "too much". Sound subjective? It is, and always changing! One simply cannot make hard and fast rules on such things.
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I think most guys like to see cleavage.
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06-29-2009, 04:47 PM
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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No chart on what MEN SHOULD wear?
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06-29-2009, 04:48 PM
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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No chart on what MEN SHOULD wear?
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Men's standards are a lot less stringent than women's standards
because men make up the rules.
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06-29-2009, 06:04 PM
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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WOW!
1) I saved a copy of my initial post on this thread in an attempt to send it to the Pastor, but the only place to submit this was their public "Guestbook" and I felt it unwise and could be discouraging to some if I had posted my message there.
2) What's the deal with this racial barrier you discussed? Why would it be a barrier to anyone?
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06-29-2009, 06:14 PM
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen
This is an assembly that is not particularly conservative. Most wear wedding rings, they allow short-sleeves, and they would not be considered "cultish" or anything like that. It is predominately African-American and Jamaican, and it seems that there is a headcovering custom for 1/2 of the sisters in that assembly. They would be considered VERY much into the UPC/classical Pentecost. They're generally friendly people, and the pastor there has a lot of other ministers helping him, so it's not run by some dictatorial-authoritarian-pastor. Could I make my spiritual home there? Probably not... There is a strong racial barrier that I have always felt difficult to break, but one of the assistant ministers attends there with his family and they are Caucasian.
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I totally missed this the first time I read this. I'm kind of surprised, and very sad, that such a thing would even factor into a decision about where to attend church.
I've attended churches that had a racial make up where I was seriously in the minority. I never even gave that any thought when it came to deciding whether or not to make that my church home. And each church I made my church home, was truly a home in spite of the color of my skin or anyone else's.
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