This Is Why We Get a Bad Rap!!

[Dordrecht]

The lady accused here has a public blog.
I.o.w. she wants people to read it, otherwise she would not have it out in the open on the internet.

I see no harm in posting the link. Without the link this is (I say it again) useless gossip.

Without proof this is idle words.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Stephanas

Did she use any words that the pastor from Gainesville doesn't use in his sermons?

Vulgarity isn't a reflection of past or present church membership - it's a heart and a head problem.

This psycho-babble about strict upbringing and newfound liberty is silly.

Thank you! Not being raised in the UPC, I find the statement to be outrageously silly! Because I know when you are carnal........there is no other explanation or excuse needed! I know when I'm being carnal and I don't blame that on anyone or anything except for myself!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

The lady accused here has a public blog.
I.o.w. she wants people to read it, otherwise she would not have it out in the open on the internet.

I see no harm in posting the link. Without the link this is (I say it again) useless gossip.

Without proof this is idle words.

Well, pel?


That's fun to say, btw.



Anybody want a peanut? (Only the wise will understand.)

[n david]

Originally Posted by Stephanas

Congratulations!

I, for one, admire a person who will make a dumb statement and then stand by it.

Thankfully the cursing preacher's wife is not representative of people that have left the UPC, and you are not representative of the vast number of wonderful people who are UPC.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

What I can't figure out is when it is possible to use certain obscenities in a manner in which they are inoffensive.

When you stub a toe?

I don't have children, and I don't hang around many conservative Christians.

I am the office manager of several companies, all in the construction field.

And my dogs don't care.

.

[Stephanas]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

The lady accused here has a public blog.
I.o.w. she wants people to read it, otherwise she would not have it out in the open on the internet.

I see no harm in posting the link. Without the link this is (I say it again) useless gossip.

Without proof this is idle words.

When you're wrong, repeating yourself doesn't serve any purpose at all.

I haven't got an infraction for awhile now, so here goes: Your post is ignorant, dim-witted, and offensive.

When a credible person makes a statement, their word alone is enough to substantiate their comment. Sherri is completely credible.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Well then your point would be incorrect. I never accused you of saying anything about upc members. You came up concering your post about words being sinful or not.

I have no problem at all with you disagreeing with my point. But I do object to you words where you imply that I (along with DG) said things that I did not.

Once again I quote your words

So, Pastor Sherri, I think DG's and Michlows posts help contribute to the Bad Rap theory, no?

Nothing is a sin, and standard keeping churches may not even live "in" Christ, sheeesh

Once again, I am asking that you correct your post and apologize for implying that I said things that I did not.

Normally, I would just let this go. But I have gotten accused in the past (and it may have then been true) for being a UPC basher, a hater, a bitter ex-upc'er, etc. And I have been very careful to avoid such things in the present.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Michlow

When you stub a toe?

I don't have children, and I don't hang around many conservative Christians.

I am the office manager of several companies, all in the construction field.

And my dogs don't care.

.

LOL!!!! Okay, surprisingly, I'm going to agree with you on this finer point. Although I do believe we should try to keep our mouths clean for the sake of our own consciences, it is true that much of what is offensive is determined by who is in the room. (Same with modesty--obviously God isn't offended by nudity, in and of itself.)

I do believe that taking God's name in vain is disrespectful to Him, and since He can always hear, then I don't suppose there's ever a "safe" time for that.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

And then we get this...sheesh, come on my lib friends, please defend us who are still in the ark!!!!!!

DG, this post was garbage

I'd agree with you... if DG had used the bold and enlarged font that you did... but he was more serene. Or at least appeared to be more serene.

And I agree with his opinion of "works based churches", as long as it wasn't shouted. It's an important consideration. Since the blog in question is still anonymous, we can only speak to the generalities and speculate to some degree.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Well, whether it was needed or not, I felt like offering it. I felt that Dordecht's post was accusing her of backbiting.

I didn't think Sherri was backbiting, but I do agree that it is gossip. There is no way to deny that. Gossip is always repeating a story, conversation, etc. that tarnishes a person's reputation or reflects negatively toward another person - whether they've done that to themselves or not - it's still gossip if we repeat that in a conversation.

Having said that, I do see why she started the thread. Some time back I made an observation - "Looking around in the locations that I have lived, I didn't see anyone setting a better example than what we have or have had." I was labeled as making a "stereotypical" remark.

But, Sherri's post confirms that it was not a stereotypical remark on my part. We do actually look around and see the examples that she referenced on this thread.

That does affect her. I can see that. It affects us, also, when someone in the organization makes grievous mistakes of one sort or the other.

We are all affected in one way or another.

My angst on the subject is the broadbrush toward a conservative group of people when I KNOW people that are not in the UPC or other conservative movements having their own mistakes being made.