Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
What's that got to do with this?
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by 1399
Whoa man! What an mind opening post!
Were you finished with this post-- is there any more you want to add?
Dr. Vaughn will be pleased to know that listening repeatedly to his 1600 William Branham tapes has not been in vain! He has dazzled you.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by StMark
I wasn't making that up Cindy
Cindy,
Yup. This wasn't like Mark's other stuff he posts!
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
Where race does come in in my opinion, is due to the fact that the facial hair ban was mainly an offshoot of the resistance to the hippie movement where extreme facial hair was a sign of rebellion. That issue was primarily confined to White culture and there has never really been a time in the Black community where facial hair was anything negatively symbolic. I think that this is just another example of people being unwilling to simply apply Biblical principles and instead relying on a list of specifics that can be dated and not encompassing of all cultures.
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by tstew
Where race does come in in my opinion, is due to the fact that the facial hair ban was mainly an offshoot of the resistance to the hippie movement where extreme facial hair was a sign of rebellion. That issue was primarily confined to White culture and there has never really been a time in the Black community where facial hair was anything negatively symbolic. I think that this is just another example of people being unwilling to simply apply Biblical principles and instead relying on a list of specifics that can be dated and not encompassing of all cultures.
you are exactly right & the UPC had one of biggest harvest
during this period
Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
Serious question:
I went on a missions trip and it struck me odd how the very, very poor ladies that had been converted were wearing American made skirts.
It was my impression that the skirts they were wearing really didn't match their culture. In fact, it didn't make sense to me that it would so important for these ladies to be concerned about skirts when there were more pressing issues to be concerned with.
Am I off with my perceptions? I was having these thoughts long after I started doubting my stand on "standards"-- I freely admit this.
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by 1399
Serious question:
I went on a missions trip and it struck me odd how the very, very poor ladies that had been converted were wearing American made skirts.
It was my impression that the skirts they were wearing really didn't match their culture. In fact, it didn't make sense to me that it would so important for these ladies to be concerned about skirts when there were more pressing issues to be concerned with.
Am I off with my perceptions? I was having these thoughts long after I started doubting my stand on "standards"-- I freely admit this.
Serious answer:
Most of the traditional African wear does incorporate some form of a skirt or dress anyway. Often, having one that is a pre-made Western skirt is just a more convenient way to dress the way they do anyway.
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
So, do you guys think GT Haywood would be allowed to preach a General Conference for the WPF or UPC?
Yes or no?
No. Neither would Jesus, no matter how He tried to explain He is from another country!
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Originally Posted by StMark
I wasn't making that up Cindy
I didn't mean to imply that you were Mark, I had just never heard that before.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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