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04-15-2008, 10:48 AM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Just from my perceptions: Texas tends to go a bit too far when it comes time to "clamping down" on a problem. These people lived there for years and followed this way of life. However manipulative and out of step their teachings may have been, for Texas to suddenly jump up and say, "Hey! You can't do that!" after turning a blind eye to these folks for so long seems hypocritical to me.
But then again - it is an election year. I think that explains why this happened now.
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It is scary to think that the government can just walk in and bust things up for we do not know how far that power can go...
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From what I've seen so far, I don't think they just suddenly jumped up and headed in. They have wanted in for a very long time, but their hands were tied. They had no proof of any wrongdoing or breaking of laws.
It wasn't until they received a phone call for help that they were ABLE to go in.
For all the government's power, it was useless to them without an accusation brought against the compound.
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04-15-2008, 10:52 AM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by The Mrs
From what I've seen so far, I don't think they just suddenly jumped up and headed in. They have wanted in for a very long time, but their hands were tied. They had no proof of any wrongdoing or breaking of laws.
It wasn't until they received a phone call for help that they were ABLE to go in.
For all the government's power, it was useless to them without an accusation brought against the compound.
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Our local news this morning said they have been trying to do this for over 1 yr. And even had at one time tried to plant someone within the compound,
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04-15-2008, 10:59 AM
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My Family!
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Can anyone explain why the victims were taken while the perpetrators remain?
Why did they not round up the men and then proceed with the investigation?
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To me this would seem the right thing to do.
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04-15-2008, 11:03 AM
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Not riding the train
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Can anyone explain why the victims were taken while the perpetrators remain?
Why did they not round up the men and then proceed with the investigation?
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One of the men is denying he knew the girl that turned in the report. They have to have evidence.
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04-15-2008, 11:14 AM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
One of the men is denying he knew the girl that turned in the report. They have to have evidence.
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Didnt they say they think they found the girl??? I thought I heard something about finding her and having now DNA to compare? Or was that something else I heard about?
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04-15-2008, 11:15 AM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace
Didnt they say they think they found the girl??? I thought I heard something about finding her and having now DNA to compare? Or was that something else I heard about?
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I haven't been following the story. Just heard a few pieces here and there.
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04-15-2008, 11:19 AM
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Forever Loved Admin
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Just from my perceptions: Texas tends to go a bit too far when it comes time to "clamping down" on a problem. These people lived there for years and followed this way of life. However manipulative and out of step their teachings may have been, for Texas to suddenly jump up and say, "Hey! You can't do that!" after turning a blind eye to these folks for so long seems hypocritical to me.
But then again - it is an election year. I think that explains why this happened now.
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He relocated to Texas while wanted in other states. Texas just happened to be the place where they ended up and got complaints about pregnant teenagers seen in town and the teenage boys that were driven out told someone in authority and that's why TEXAS did the right thing.
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04-15-2008, 11:25 AM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Can anyone explain why the victims were taken while the perpetrators remain?
Why did they not round up the men and then proceed with the investigation?
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The children were removed out of harm's way. The reason the men weren't is because of evidence gathering so they can be prosecuted.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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04-15-2008, 11:29 AM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
I believe someone called from the compound to get help. Whether it was a child or an adult I am not sure.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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04-15-2008, 11:30 AM
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Re: Whoa! Polygamist solution is frightening...
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Originally Posted by cneasttx
I believe someone called from the compound to get help. Whether it was a child or an adult I am not sure.
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It was a 16 yr old and I think they said she had gotten out of the compound and they could not find her for a long time. I think I heard she has been found tho. I may be wrong
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