Who is more holy?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by originalsecretplace

Here is another story Jesus told: "The Kingdom of Heaven is like a farmer who planted good seed in his field. 25 But that night as everyone slept, his enemy came and planted weeds among the wheat. 26 When the crop began to grow and produce grain, the weeds also grew. 27 The farmer's servants came and told him, `Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds!'
28 " `An enemy has done it!' the farmer exclaimed.
" `Shall we pull out the weeds?' they asked.
29 "He replied, `No, you'll hurt the wheat if you do. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds and burn them and to put the wheat in the barn.' "

I didn't say I would try and destroy or root out anybody; I just said there are some i choose not to have fellowship with.

You are mixing your examples.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by AGAPE

I think that I'll fellowship with AGAPE

If he disagrees, Rhoni will be back next week.

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I didn't say I would try and destroy or root out anybody; I just said there are some i choose not to have fellowship with.

You are mixing your examples.

True. originalsecretplace, that parable is about lost (weeds) vs. saved (wheat), not saint in relation to saint.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by OGIA

True. originalsecretplace, that parable is about lost (weeds) vs. saved (wheat), not saint in relation to saint.

It could apply if one of the saints isn't really saved.

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

It could apply if one of the saints isn't really saved.

Are they really a saint then?

[originalsecretplace]

Originally Posted by OGIA

Are they really a saint then?

Sorry, I didn't make my point very clearly. If we are not supposed to root out the sinners then how much less are we supposed to root out the saints.

God judges the world. We do judge the church as Paul points out but we seem to do it too easily at times.

In my mind, rejecting a brother or sister is the same as rooting them out.

Divisions amoung the church is a very serious problem. It's a tightrope walk.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by OGIA

Are they really a saint then?

Not in God's eyes, but they are sitting on the pews of churches all around! There are pastor's preaching with sin in their lives too. This is no surprise.

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by originalsecretplace

If we are not supposed to root out the sinners then how much less are we supposed to root out the saints.

We do judge the church as Paul points out but we.

It seems that as long as it's done under the unction of the Holy Ghost, there is scripture that permits it and maybe even demands it. "Rooting out" sin in a local body is essential to the functioning and growth of that local Body.

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Not in God's eyes, but they are sitting on the pews of churches all around! There are pastor's preaching with sin in their lives too. This is no surprise.

My understanding is that the process is not to go searching for sin in the Church. The process is for dealing with those who refuse to respond to the admonishment of the brethren. There will certainly be "sin" in a local Body, but when it's revealed there is a process to deal with it. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to happen too much these days.

And we wonder why so many of our local churches are dysfunctional........

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by OGIA

My understanding is that the process is not to go searching for sin in the Church. The process is for dealing with those who refuse to respond to the admonishment of the brethren. There will certainly be "sin" in a local Body, but when it's revealed there is a process to deal with it. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to happen too much these days.

And we wonder why so many of our local churches are dysfunctional........

Amen!