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10-13-2011, 01:36 PM
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Re: Prophet Charles Pierce out of Ms. anyone know
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
Well, I've read every post in this thread. All I can say is that my experience was quite different.
Brother Pierce came to the church I was attending at the time. Now mind you, the churches in this area were split towards their feelings about Bro. Pierce. Some of the churches would never consider him to be a Brother in the Lord, thus never invited him to hold a revival in their church. Some even preached against anybody from their congregation to visit the churches that did allow Bro. Pierce to see for themselves if God used him prophetically or not. (one of the things that got me lambasted when I went to see for myself  )
Well back to my story.
I was sitting in the congregation, emotionally hurting as I testified in another thread about my condition at that time. Brother Pierce started preaching and decided to come off the podium and walk the aisle while he preached. He passed me and my family. At that moment, I felt a huge swelling of emotion in my chest about my pain and suffering. It was centered right where my heart is located. There was no pain, just flooding with emotions. After Brother Pierce walked past us and down the aisle, he stopped talking, turned around and looked straight at me. He walked up closer looking at me and my baby who was running up and down the pew and said, "That I was hurt (in my womb) giving birth to my baby". There was some truth to that because I had a somewhat difficult birth. But then his eyes narrowed somewhat as he looked at me. He then told the congregation "That woman has been hurt". But this time he was not talking about my physical condition. He walked closer to me and started talking to me. He said again, "This woman has been hurt. (and told me) You never mind about them! God is going to take care of them. You just live your life with all your heart for God. Love God and live for Him".
The host pastor's wife, who knew somewhat about my plight (God rest her soul she passed away last year) came up to me after service and wanted me to know that she said nothing to him about what had happened to me.
Now this may not mean much to anybody else, but it was validation for me to continue to press on. I felt like God was seeing my pain and letting me know that He was still in control and that HE still loves me.
You see, when we look at the gifts being used coming from God through man, we should not see a mere man from which the gift is flowing through as being the one who is mighty. That is always a mistake. We must always recognize that it is God who distributes the gift and through the Holy Ghost it must flow.
That must have happened at least fifteen years ago. I haven't been in any revivals that had him as guest evangelist in a long time. But, we plan to go to Meridian soon for a first time visit.
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I don't mean to demean your story but this kind of very general "perception" or whatever is not very convincing to me. I believe many of these preachers use the same logic and attention to detail that secular performers do. It is not a hard stretch to look at an emotional woman who is obviously conflicted with emotion and say that she has been "hurt". All of us have been hurt to varying degrees so that "word of knowledge" would probably have applied to 90% of that congregation.
I think there is a lot of pressure on these "word of knowledge" preachers to come through at these special meetings / revivals and sometimes it may be their human observations coming through more than some Divine revelation.
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10-13-2011, 05:33 PM
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Re: Prophet Charles Pierce out of Ms. anyone know
He didn't know me from Adams housecat. He had NO idea the conflict and emotion I was going through because after so many years of criticism, I learned to stuff and hide my emotions.
But you are well entitled to your opinion. I did not put my story on here to convince anybody to change their mind. Just telling my experience...
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10-13-2011, 05:36 PM
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Re: Prophet Charles Pierce out of Ms. anyone know
your healing (physical/emotional) is according to your faith anyway, so if he helped you activate your faith, praise God
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10-13-2011, 09:01 PM
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Re: Prophet Charles Pierce out of Ms. anyone know
Amanah, that's a sensible statement.
Charles Pierce cannot do anything of himself. He is just a conduit. It takes our own faith that God will do all healing.
Thanks for bringing that out.
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10-13-2011, 09:37 PM
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Re: Prophet Charles Pierce out of Ms. anyone know
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
He didn't know me from Adams housecat. He had NO idea the conflict and emotion I was going through because after so many years of criticism, I learned to stuff and hide my emotions.
But you are well entitled to your opinion. I did not put my story on here to convince anybody to change their mind. Just telling my experience...
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Only problem is I have heard that same statement from every preacher I have ever seen operate in the gifts.
Not saying he didn't receive something from God but I am convinced that the reason the gifts are used so much in these churches is because the people are so tormented.
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10-13-2011, 10:42 PM
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Re: Prophet Charles Pierce out of Ms. anyone know
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Only problem is I have heard that same statement from every preacher I have ever seen operate in the gifts.
Not saying he didn't receive something from God but I am convinced that the reason the gifts are used so much in these churches is because the people are so tormented.
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dg, I perceive that you have been hurt...
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10-13-2011, 10:44 PM
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Re: Prophet Charles Pierce out of Ms. anyone know
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
He didn't know me from Adams housecat. He had NO idea the conflict and emotion I was going through because after so many years of criticism, I learned to stuff and hide my emotions.
But you are well entitled to your opinion. I did not put my story on here to convince anybody to change their mind. Just telling my experience...
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<sigh>
As an amateur magician, I actually get depressed at how easy it would be to pull the wool over the eyes of the typical apostolic congregation should I choose to.
During Words of Knowledge and other cold readings people hear what they want to and disregard the rest.
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10-13-2011, 10:49 PM
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Re: Prophet Charles Pierce out of Ms. anyone know
RW - I have seen the fake, but I have also seen the real. Sadly, there are more fakes than real.
Maybe fake is not the right word, but I have seen some who were humanly very perceptive, and took that to mean they had a gift.
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10-13-2011, 11:05 PM
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Re: Prophet Charles Pierce out of Ms. anyone know
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Originally Posted by aegsm76
RW - I have seen the fake, but I have also seen the real. Sadly, there are more fakes than real.
Maybe fake is not the right word, but I have seen some who were humanly very perceptive, and took that to mean they had a gift.
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God is wise. He showed me the Real thing at the very beginning of my walk with Him so I have a yard stick to judge others by. Sadly, the vast majority is nothing but men with an inert sense of psychology manipulating those who seek answers from a higher power. Usually it is not intentional!
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10-13-2011, 11:17 PM
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Re: Prophet Charles Pierce out of Ms. anyone know
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
God is wise. He showed me the Real thing at the very beginning of my walk with Him so I have a yard stick to judge others by. Sadly, the vast majority is nothing but men with an inert sense of psychology manipulating those who seek answers from a higher power. Usually it is not intentional!
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Strange you would say that.
I've found more pastors who manipulate their congregation into "submitting" to them.
And they use the Word of God to do it. People who are "operating in the gifts" are far and few as compared to the "Pastors" who do this.
I've seen Pastors who have destroyed lives because they thought they had the "authority" to do whatever they deem is their privilege.
Last edited by AreYouReady?; 10-13-2011 at 11:20 PM.
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