Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship - Articles of Faith

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Of course they are starting an organozation.

The question is, did this evolve, or did they lie?

I refuse to believe the worst until I have to.

Okay Friend, I love you - but I'm gonna call your hand on this one.

Remember our little conversation from October?

Remember all of those posts and the banning I received for this same issue?

Well, the truth comes marching home BRo.

Are you really going to tell me these guys didn't have this in mind?

Are you really gonna tell me they haven't been planning this since before conference?

Please....don't insult my intelligence.

Originally Posted by Hesetmefree238

Exactly, you cannot put together the framework for an organization in that
period of time. This appears to have been in the works for some time.

I agree this took alot of work and commitment from people and it evident by all the departments already staffed, wow.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor

This post might get me in trouble but
Didn't Johnny Godair say he wasn't leaving the UPC? Didn't he tell preachers at different conferences that he wasn't going anywhere??
Didn't Booker say he had no intention of starting another organization?
Wasn't it said that Wilson would NEVER leave the UPC?
Haven't A LOT of them said things that have now been proven to be untrue?

What do you call it when people say one thing and then do another?
hmm...

I'm calling out all you Tulsa defenders! A few months ago, you guys wanted to pretend like nothing was going on but just a simple fellowship of "like minded" ministers....what do you have to say now?

deception, sounds like a good word to me.

You tell 'em Tony.

I remember the same conversations.

It was, and is, deception - pure and simple.

I don't understand why my good friends are defending this behavior.

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Okay Friend, I love you - but I'm gonna call your hand on this one.

Remember our little conversation from October?

Remember all of those posts and the banning I received for this same issue?

Well, the truth comes marching home BRo.

Are you really going to tell me these guys didn't have this in mind?

Are you really gonna tell me they haven't been planning this since before conference?

Please....don't insult my intelligence.

I would never try to insult your intelligence. I might on accident, but try?

All I was asking for was time to do it's work. It has, hasn't it?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by scotty

Why are there some who seem to enjoy or "entertain" themselves with christian disunity?

Is the woes of a christian organization "entertaining" to you? Does hardship within the body of Christ please you? Are you really that shallow? Do you lack the love of Christ so much that this low is all you have left? Oh, and let me guess, this demeaning attitude is a sign of the salvation you have? Now there is something to laugh at.

C'mon IAM, I mean Scotty.

Your post is way out of line and akin to a personal attack.

These guys said they weren't starting an org and did.

How can you, or anyone else, defend this?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

I would never try to insult your intelligence. I might on accident, but try?

All I was asking for was time to do it's work. It has, hasn't it?

Time has already proven the deception.

What more proof do you need?

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

You tell 'em Tony.

I remember the same conversations.

It was, and is, deception - pure and simple.

I don't understand why my good friends are defending this behavior.

Maybe they are being made to feel like they have eaten gravel.

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Time has already proven the deception.

What more proof do you need?

Thank you for repeating what I said. It does indeed appear to be deception.

I am saddened that a couple of names on the lists provided apparently either have little knowledge of what is going on, or outright lied to me. I am trying to pull together what has happened in my own mind, because if we go by appearances, this looks very, very pre-planned.

Apologies to you for our earlier disagreements.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Maybe they are being made to feel like they have eaten gravel.

I don't think they do, as they still try to defend this behavior and pull the wool over our eyes.

Look folks, I couldn't care less if they start an org. I hope they are enormously successful.

But please...deception and lying is still sin.

Don't defend these guys.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

Thank you for repeating what I said. It does indeed appear to be deception.

I am saddened that a couple of names on the lists provided apparently either have little knowledge of what is going on, or outright lied to me. I am trying to pull together what has happened in my own mind, because if we go by appearances, this looks very, very pre-planned.

Apologies to you for our earlier disagreements.

Hey, no problem.

I just don't like it when people question my integrity over stating the obvious.

(not that you have)