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[Raven]

Originally Posted by staysharp

I'm saying there is no difference. If you are a Christian, regardless of denominational ties; ie. baptist, methodist, etc., if you consider yourself a Christian, you should be Apostolic. Apostolic does not mean Acts 2:38: the early Apostles built on Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

The term in and of itself is misleading. To say you are Apostolic just because you believe God requires three steps to salvation is a fallacy.

The disciples merely preached Jesus. That's all. They had no agenda, no personal ambitions, they gave their lives for Jesus and His gospel.

I know many who consider themselves Apostolic, (because of their standards) but completely ignore Christian ethics. They gossip, lie, cheat, backbite, hate their brothers, consider everybody else lost, consumed by jealousy, bitterness, etc.

Either you are a Christian or you are not saved.

Staysharp

I'm with Felicity. I agree with what you say. In fact I really like what you say!

Raven

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by Raven

Staysharp

I'm with Felicity. I agree with what you say. In fact I really like what you say!

Raven

Thank you and I like you because you agree with me! How's that for unconditional love!

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Thad

People do change sometimes WD. I remember hearing preachers preach against many things that later in life they changed on. they had to take the heat for it of course. I know preachers who preached against cadillacs and 20 years later they had one sitting in the church parking lot.

Don't hold it against anyone. there might be something you change your mind on one day too.

One other thing, some who voted in favor of the TV resolution use to preach against if over their pulpits. think about that

This is true for everyone, Thad, but in the case of Bishop, I personally know some things he has softened on...golf, colored shirts (could only wear white in the pulpit)...things like that...things that are no biggie, ya know?!

[pastorj]

Originally Posted by staysharp

Tragically, most "Apostolic" preachers were born without a personality. Have you ever tried to make one smile for a picture?

The deep condescending preacher voice, beer belly, white shirts, long sleeves and $90.00 ties are enough personality for me. Wonder if the crocodile skins were worn to the grass hut?

Do I detect a note of... no, couldn't be... could it? Yeah... it does sound like a little jealousy there.



WHO CARES? If he can afford a $90 tie and a Ford Pickup and a white shirt and a pair of crocodile skins... by all means wear them. It's nobody else's business. Is it???

[pastorj]

Originally Posted by staysharp

I'm saying there is no difference. If you are a Christian, regardless of denominational ties; ie. baptist, methodist, etc., if you consider yourself a Christian, you should be Apostolic. Apostolic does not mean Acts 2:38: the early Apostles built on Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

The term in and of itself is misleading. To say you are Apostolic just because you believe God requires three steps to salvation is a fallacy.

The disciples merely preached Jesus. That's all. They had no agenda, no personal ambitions, they gave their lives for Jesus and His gospel.

I know many who consider themselves Apostolic, (because of their standards) but completely ignore Christian ethics. They gossip, lie, cheat, backbite, hate their brothers, consider everybody else lost, consumed by jealousy, bitterness, etc.

Either you are a Christian or you are not saved.

I don't agree with all of your post... but, some of it is surely true.
I really like what you say about the gossipping, lying, backbiting, bitterness and jealousy...
As a matter of fact... you need to put some of that in a new thread and make it a sticky that all members have to read... Because nearly EVERY THREAD on this forum has a lot of that going on in it.
And, yeah, I know... nobody's perfect! But in the time that I've been on the AFF, I'm coming to the conclusion that that is the primary focus of this forum.
If people sat around and did in person what is being done on here, it could be called nothing more than simply 'gossip'... some of it is definitely 'lying' (I think we could reference the Bishop Jakes story here)...
Oh, I know... there'll be someone who'll say, "If you don't like it, get off!" That's what my mother would have told me if she caught me listening to stuff like this when I was growing up. So... maybe I will... because whether you have a 'holier than thou' attitude, or are tearing up those who have a 'holier than thou' attitude... I find the odor is about the same... and God probably does too!

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by pastorj

I don't agree with all of your post... but, some of it is surely true.
I really like what you say about the gossipping, lying, backbiting, bitterness and jealousy...
As a matter of fact... you need to put some of that in a new thread and make it a sticky that all members have to read... Because nearly EVERY THREAD on this forum has a lot of that going on in it.
And, yeah, I know... nobody's perfect! But in the time that I've been on the AFF, I'm coming to the conclusion that that is the primary focus of this forum.
If people sat around and did in person what is being done on here, it could be called nothing more than simply 'gossip'... some of it is definitely 'lying' (I think we could reference the Bishop Jakes story here)...
Oh, I know... there'll be someone who'll say, "If you don't like it, get off!" That's what my mother would have told me if she caught me listening to stuff like this when I was growing up. So... maybe I will... because whether you have a 'holier than thou' attitude, or are tearing up those who have a 'holier than thou' attitude... I find the odor is about the same... and God probably does too!

There's an old saying...I don't repeat Gossip so listen carefully. lol, Truth is humans can't keep a secret. If they know something about someone else, they will tell it or die. People want to be first with information to feed their ego, "I know something you don't know".

I have witnessed it first hand and can tell you it's straight out of hell. When people assume, jump to conclusions, accuse, this creates a false witness against their brother. This is a sin.

Originally Posted by Mercedcameraman

I think these people are living a double life on their terms.

Do you think so cameraman? I kinda get the feeling that they know their day of real influence is over. What do you think?