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Old 09-19-2007, 11:41 AM
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While Christ was on this earth he used human channels to help get His work done. Gender, color, social position, or any of these things did not affect Him. Many times the disciples had a narrow view to who could be part of their group. But in many instances Jesus never turned away one tender soul. The disciples, however turned women and children away but Jesus did not cast any away. He would allow women and children to be near Him.
The priority of the church today, be it man, woman, boy or girl should be endeavoring to share Christ with everyone. For the gospel of the kingdom must be preached to the entire world for the end to come. In Matthew 24:14 “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” It is generally understood that He was talking to His Church here in this passage.
So just who is that church? It’s you and me. He commissioned everyone! Jesus will use the voice of anyone who is available to Him. Women always seem to have something to say. Why not speak for Jesus? If a woman is consecrated, called out, and prayed up then He would certainly use her for His glory.
Do you realize that probably two thirds of the church body is women anyway? Only someone that does not have a full discerning of God’s saving plan would try to close the mouth of one who is trying to spread the Gospel message. Perhaps the scoffer should search his heart to see whether his motives are pure. It’s not a good idea to try to stop someone from preaching Jesus.
Our commission did not come from some group of "church overseers" or some "governing body," no not even from the Roman religious papacy but it came from the One True Supreme Authority, the Lord Jesus Christ. He gave the church the command to go and preach the gospel (Mark 16:15-18).
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:46 AM
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Crazyhomie,

I've reread some of your posts in the the beginning of this thread and I want to apologize for misunderstanding what you said. I truly thought you did not think the word of God is infallible, but now upon rereading what you wrote, I can see how I misuderstood you. It has to do with your writing style.

Next time I'll try to clarify with you exactly what you are saying without jumping to conclusions.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:53 AM
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Let me make myself clear. I do not define myself as a feminist. But feminism is really anything to do with equal rights for women, which most here are for. What we, as Christians, are opposed to, is abortion, female heads of house, lesbianism and the like. If that is feminism, then we are all opposed to it. But again, it's all in the definition of feminism. In the church the word feminism is usually said with a sneer, so the word itself is thought of negatively. But remember, the first feminists were Christian women, trying to get the vote for women. And isn't it Christianity that really gives women equal rights, rather than that Christianity hates women? Jesus was very egalitarian.
This is how I would describe my thoughts on the matter.

While I am certainly for equal rights for women, etc. I am in no way a feminist, liberal, social, radical, or otherwise. I may agree with a few things they support, but that doesn't mean I in any way identofy with them.

Hillary Clinton and I both agree that you ought not steal chickens, but that doesn't make me a liberal democrat.
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Old 09-19-2007, 12:40 PM
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They may be...but back in THEIR day, can you just imagine what they had to go through? And the things that were said about THEM? Either to their face or behind their backs. I'm sure it's not much different from what is being said about some women today.

Sometimes extremes have to be sought after, just to bring things into a proper BALANCE.

Do you personally see or recognize any discrimination of women in our world today?
are you talking about individual cases or in America as a society and women as a class?

the answers to these are very different.
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:24 PM
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They may be...but back in THEIR day, can you just imagine what they had to go through? And the things that were said about THEM? Either to their face or behind their backs. I'm sure it's not much different from what is being said about some women today.

Sometimes extremes have to be sought after, just to bring things into a proper BALANCE.

Do you personally see or recognize any discrimination of women in our world today?
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:26 PM
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This is how I would describe my thoughts on the matter.

While I am certainly for equal rights for women, etc. I am in no way a feminist, liberal, social, radical, or otherwise. I may agree with a few things they support, but that doesn't mean I in any way identofy with them.

Hillary Clinton and I both agree that you ought not steal chickens, but that doesn't make me a liberal democrat.
LOL! Well, I guess in many minds, the word "feminist" is owned by radicals. I guess the point is that Christianity, in it's correct form, frees women like nothing else.
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Extremes like "all men are guilty of sex crimes"

this is a pretty common theme among the establisment feminist movemnt.

what exactly is being brought into line by this kind of extreme retoric?

Balance is nice. I like balance. I just dont know what kind of balance you get from that kind of stuff.

The womens sufferage movenemtn didnt advocate men not voting, to get women the right to vote. they advocated the right of a woman to vote. they said what they meant. being extreme doesnt balance anything. it just brings a different kind of imballance.
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LOL! Well, I guess in many minds, the word "feminist" is owned by radicals. I guess the point is that Christianity, in it's correct form, frees women like nothing else.
Indeed Christianity does.

That's why we have no need to support the feminist movement, which is evil at the core, even though it does promote some good thing.

But hey, Mussolini wasn't all bad either. he made sure the trains ran on time.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:22 PM
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are you talking about individual cases or in America as a society and women as a class?

the answers to these are very different.
Any and all I guess...mostly just wondering if you and I had different ideas of what discrimination against women really is. And wondered if your experiences from your part of the world were any different than mine.
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